Renata, Called to the Hunt + Raised by Giants. How does it work?
Asked by Turu 1 year ago
Hello,
I was playing an EDH game in local game store, when a guy that was playing Renata, Called to the Hunt played Raised by Giants and we did not know how it works exactly. And in that matter, how does Raised by Giants works with any other commander with "*" in its power or toughness like Ashaya, Soul of the Wild
Thank you for your answers
Rhadamanthus says... #2
Turu: An answer to your question has been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections to be made, I marked it as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
The CDA is applied first and then the P/T setting effect from Raised by Giants, meaning that the commander is a base 10/10. Layer 7 is the layer in which P/T changes are applied. CDAs are applied in layer 7a, base P/T setting effects are in layer 7b.
613.4. Within layer 7, apply effects in a series of sublayers in the order described below. Within each sublayer, apply effects in timestamp order. (See rule 613.7.) Note that dependency may alter the order in which effects are applied within a sublayer. (See rule 613.8.)
613.4a Layer 7a: Effects from characteristic-defining abilities that define power and/or toughness are applied. See rule 604.3.
613.4b Layer 7b: Effects that set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value are applied. Effects that refer to the base power and/or toughness of a creature apply in this layer.
613.4c Layer 7c: Effects and counters that modify power and/or toughness (but don’t set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value) are applied.
613.4d Layer 7d: Effects that switch a creature’s power and toughness are applied. Such effects take the value of power and apply it to the creature’s toughness, and take the value of toughness and apply it to the creature’s power.
August 7, 2022 3:09 p.m.