Rain of Gore + Wall of Shards
Asked by Kjartan 8 years ago
The thing with Cumulative Upkeep that makes him gain the 1 life, is a cost, right? Not a spell or an abillity. So unlike with Tainted Remedy this combo would not function, am I right?
It does work with Tainted Remedy though, right? It's not like Erebos, God of the Dead which flat out says your opponents cannot gain life. Tainted remedy does say they can't gain life, rather that when lifegain effects that target and/or affect them go onto the stack, the remedy's ability then interacts with that making them lose that life instead. So, can someone stifle the remedy's ability, say with Voidslime after gaining life from the Wall of Shards, thus not losing that life?
April 28, 2016 10:39 p.m.
Also, what is the interaction between Wall of Shards and Erebos, God of the Dead. Does it require that your opponent successfully gains life, or merely that you pay the cost of attempting to give them life. Would the upkeep cost not be satisfied despite the fact that they ultimately end up not being able to gain life, or would you have to immediately sacrifice the wall? After all you do successfully pay the cumulative upkeep cost. It says "sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost..." Even with Erebos out, nothing should be stopping you from putting the age counter on it and paying the upkeep cost. It's simply that the cost you pay would then not result in your opponent gaining life, which shouldn't be your problem since you're the controller of the wall and did everything required. After all it does not say, "unless your opponent successfully gains the life, sacrifice wall of shards."
Boza says... Accepted answer #1
The problem is Rain of Gore.
"If a spell or ability would cause its controller to gain life...".
You are the controller of the ability, so it would not enable Rain of Gore to replace the life gain with life loss. If you make the opponent gain life in any way, it will not be replaced by Rain of Gore's effect.
August 21, 2015 5:40 a.m.