Question about indestructible

Asked by wallsh 9 years ago

Let's say you have a 5/5 indestructible creature.

I attack with a 3/3 and you block it, then I cast Bile Blight will the 5/5 die? I am asking because I am not sure if damage is still marked onto the indestructible or not so I was wondering if this would work.

And of course I cast Bile Blight after combat damage so I know my creature dies but I am wondering if I can take down the 5/5/ indestructible

GreatSword says... #1

The 5/5 will not die.

Indestructibility prevents a creature from being destroyed. A creature can be destroyed in 2 ways: a destroy-effect like Doom Blade or lethal damage. "Lethal damage" is having damage marked on the creature greater than or equal to its toughness. Remember that damage does 'not' reduce a creature's toughness; it's just a value marked on a creature.

So in your above situation, the end result will be a 2/2 with 3 damage marked on it. The creature's indestructibility will prevent it from being destroyed and going to the graveyard.

June 25, 2014 1:25 p.m.

Sam_I_am says... #2

Yes, the indestructible creature will have damage 3 damage marked on it until the end of the turn.

No, the indestructible creature does not die due to having more damage marked on it than it's toughness.

June 25, 2014 1:26 p.m.

GreatSword says... #3

You might be thinking as a follow up, "Okay, what 'can' kill an indestructible creature?!".

An indestrutible creature can still go to the graveyard for having 0 or less toughness. If you had cast Dismember instead, the creature would go to the graveyard as a state-based action.

The creature can also be sacrificed, a la Geth's Verdict .

June 25, 2014 1:29 p.m.

wallsh says... #4

Bile Blight doesnt do damage it gives -3 -3...

June 25, 2014 1:30 p.m.

wallsh says... #5

so the 5/5 gets 3 damage marked on it then is given -3-3 not dealt 3 damage.

June 25, 2014 1:31 p.m.

wallsh says... #6

I dont know how you marked the answer to yourself...but i feel like your wrong

June 25, 2014 1:37 p.m.

GreatSword says... #7

I did not give the answer to myself; if I had to guess I'd say Epochalyptik did it.

The answer I gave above is correct. The 5/5 will get 3 damage marked on it (from the attacking 3/3), then Bile Blight will reduce the creature to a 2/2 with 3 damage marked on it.

If you disagree at least provide a reason why.

June 25, 2014 1:46 p.m.

wallsh says... #8

if a creature has 3 damage marked on it then it is given -3-3 it has 0 toughness and should die. -x-x or exile is like the only ways to kill indestructible

June 25, 2014 2 p.m.

Signalguy25p says... #9

Wallsh Think of it a little different. If a creature has 5 toughness and takes 3 damage just count up from 0. If the amount meets or surpasses the amount of toughness it would normally die. Marking 3 Damage on the creature does not modify its toughness in any way. In your scenario even if it took 100 damage it wouldnt matter if it was reduced by -3. It would have to be reduced completely to 0.

June 25, 2014 2:09 p.m.

umlweatherman says... #10

A creature with indestructible can have 1 billion damage marked on it as long as its toughness is still 1.

It is the fact that you are lowering the toughness on the card to 0 not that there is damage marked on it.

June 25, 2014 2:10 p.m.

GreatSword says... #11

Damage is just a value marked on a creature that goes away in the clean-up step at the end of the turn. It doesn't reduce a creature's toughness. A 3/3 creature with 2 damage marked on it still has 3 toughness.

This is different from an effect like Bile Blight that actually does reduces a creature's power or toughness.

Again, the indestructible creature in your situation above would survive as a 2/2 with 3 damage marked on it until end of the turn.

June 25, 2014 2:59 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #12

Marked damage doesn't reduce toughness. There are some digital versions of the game that display an apparent "toughness reduction" as a clean way to show how close a damaged creature is to death, but that's not what's actually happening.

If a 5/5 indestructible creature is dealt 3 damage, then it's a 5/5 indestructible with 3 marked damage. If later that turn it's also given -3/-3, then it's a 2/2 indestructible with 3 marked damage. The indestructible ability means it isn't destroyed.

June 25, 2014 3:27 p.m.

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