Oswald Fiddlebender plus Kaldheim Gods?
Asked by GrimlockVIII 2 years ago
I was thinking, if you sacrificed one of the Kaldheim Gods on their artifact side to Oswald Fiddlebender, would Oswald see the god's creature side as the mana value and allow you to search for an artifact that's one mana value higher than said side?
For instance, could I search for a 5 CMC artifact if I sacced Halvar's Sword of the Realm side? Or would Oswald no longer register the "artifact" as an artifact but instead as a creature once it's in the graveyard?
plakjekaas says... Accepted answer #2
Transforming Dual-Faced Cards typically have the mana value of the front face (the backside doesn't show a mana value for those) maybe that's where the confusion arose.
The Kaldheim gods and their artifacts, and every other Modal Dual-Faced Card for that matter, have separate costs for the separate sides you can cast. When they're permanents, they only have the mana value of the displayed face.
Oswald Fiddlebender sacrificing a Sword of the Realms won't even register the Halvar, God of Battle Flip that's printed on the other side, it will have sacrificed an artifact with mana value 2.
Sacrificing Edgar Markov's Coffin will count as an artifact of mana value 4, because it counts the mana value of the front side, Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip.
November 29, 2021 5:13 a.m.
GrimlockVIII says... #3
Ahhhh I see that makes sense.
Damn, was really hoping I could do some shenanigans with that lmao. Thanks for the explanation.
November 29, 2021 7:11 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #4
GrimlockVIII: Since it's clear you got a satisfactory answer to your question and there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections to be made, I marked one of the responses as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question.
December 2, 2021 9:19 a.m.
GrimlockVIII says... #5
Oh yo Rhadamanthus I didn't notice the mark as answer prompt before. My bad. I'll make sure to keep that in mind in the future. Thanks!
wallisface says... #1
There is no way that Oswald is going to randomly use the cmc of the creature side of the card. It’s always going to use the cmc of the artifact you sacrificed.
I’m trying to work out what existing ruling we have currently around mdfc cards that might be causing this confusion?
November 29, 2021 4:24 a.m.