Need help with rules

Asked by someyummyrummy 1 year ago

Hello, so I'm playing a commander game and my opponent is on his attack phase, with one life, he attacks me with 12 4/4 flying zombies, that's 48 damage and I'm at 42. However, I'm playing Elf tribal, and I have Elderfang Venom on the battlefield and I cast Tergrid's Shadow, sacrificing 2 elves dealing two damage to him killing him. Does the attack still happen even though he is died?

shadow63 says... Accepted answer #1

As long as you did it before combat damage was done.

He declares attackers then you can declare blockers. After that you can use instants before combat damage is done

December 22, 2022 12:42 p.m.

Delphen7 says... #2

Because he died, he will no longer have any attacking creatures and you will take no damage.

800.4a: "When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game, any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end, and all spells and abilities controlled by that player on the stack cease to exist..."


Caerwyn Rhadamanthus I believe this is in the wrong forum.

December 22, 2022 2:15 p.m.

Tur says... #3

someyummyrummy

In the combat phase there are a few steps:

  • Entering Combat
  • Declare Attackers
  • Declare Blockers
  • Before Damage
  • After Damage
  • Ending Combat

During each of these steps you have a chance to respond. (In fact, everyone in the commander group has a chance to respond.) Your opponent does not hold priority during each of these steps. Since you made them lose 2 life from Elderfang Venom before damage, they died from the state base action for being at zero or a negative life total. (Unless they had a card like Platinum Angel on the battlefield.) The combat damage is not delt.

In the future, it is very important to understand the steps of combat. For example, if you're opponent controls cards such as: Aurelia, the Warleader, Kaalia of the Vast, or Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre you have to destroy or exile them before attackers are declared. (Earlier in their turn or on the Entering Combat phase.) Otherwise their normal on attack triggers occur.

December 22, 2022 2:22 p.m.

someyummyrummy says... #4

Thanks everyone, I get it know.

December 22, 2022 2:51 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #5

someyummyrummy: Since it's clear you got a satisfactory answer to your question and there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections to be made, I marked one of them as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question (I don't know if this topic got converted from a Forum post to a Rules Q&A topic before or after your last post, so I don't know whether you actually saw that button).

December 23, 2022 10:20 a.m.

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