Looking for confirmation: Zada, Hedron Grinder, Shoulder to Shoulder, and tokens

Asked by meecht 8 years ago

Zada, Hedron Grinder
Shoulder to Shoulder

Let's say I curved Hordeling Outburst into Zada, Hedron Grinder. Next turn I cast Shoulder to Shoulder and only choose Zada as the Support target since it says "up to two target creatures."

Does each token receive its own copy of Shoulder to Shoulder, netting seven +1/+1 counters to distribute how I wish in addition to drawing four cards?

Dracoson says... #1

You will be able to copy Shoulder to Shoulder, but each copy will be exactly the same as the original, targeting only 1 creature. So you will get 4 +1/+1 counters and draw four cards.

January 20, 2016 5:12 p.m.

Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #2

It's always good to check Gatherer for rulings that might answer your question, like this one:

8/25/2015 If you cast an instant or sorcery spell that has multiple targets, but it's targeting only Zada with all of them, Zadas ability will trigger. The copies will similarly each be targeting only one of your other creatures. You cant change any of the copy's targets to other creatures.

Knowing this, all your 4 creatures will each have their own Shoulder to Shoulder targeting themselves. They will each get 1 +1/+1 counter, and you will draw 4 cards.

For extra clarification on support just in case:

701.32a "Support N" on a permanent means "Put a +1/+1 counter on each of up to N other target creatures." "Support N" on an instant or sorcery spell means "Put a +1/+1 counter on each of up to N target creatures."_

January 20, 2016 5:33 p.m.

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