leaving the battlefield and changing name
Asked by koylucumert1 9 years ago
I control a Scion of the Ur-Dragon and I used its ability targetting Dragonlord Silumgar and gaining control of an oppoments permanent. at the end turn when scions eff faded away and it is no longar silumgar, will I keep control of the card I gained control with silumgar?
GoldGhost012 says... #2
Actually, the effect of Dragonlord Silumgar won't trigger at all when Scion of the Ur-Dragon copies it. Since Scion needs to have already been on the battlefield to activate its copy ability, Dragonlord Silumgar's enter the battlefield ability won't trigger because Scion would already have been on the battlefield.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1
Scion of the Ur-Dragon's ability doesn't target anything.
Further, the ability doesn't cause anything to leave or enter the battlefield. Scion of the Ur-Dragon is still the same permanent even if its characteristics change; it hasn't changed zones at all. ETB and LTB abilities won't trigger.
Let's assume instead that Dragonlord Silumgar had an activated ability that allowed you to gain control of target creature for as long as you control Dragonlord Silumgar. You would be able to gain control of something until Scion of the Ur-Dragon (the object, regardless of what its current name is) leaves the battlefield. Whenever a card references itself by name, it means "this object" unless it says "a card named." Dragonlord Silumgar's ability refers to the source object, and it doesn't care what that object's name is.
April 1, 2015 4:13 p.m.