If I mutate under a manifested creature can I flip it with the mana cost of either?
Asked by FalconForce 2 years ago
Example: Mutating Regal Leosaur and placing it under a manifested card, say Akroma, Angel of Fury. From my understanding, after casting, the Leo enters face down because top card is face down, so I believe the "Whenever this creature mutates" ability can't trigger. From this point forward, could Akroma, Angel of Fury be flipped for 2 mana at any time?
FalconForce says... #2
Thanks a bunch, that clears things up. Finding out that the cards under the face down card are face up and contribute abilities opens up options.
April 7, 2022 12:46 p.m.
Mutate and Morph are both incredibly weird mechanics, so confusion around their interaction makes sense! Morph in particular does all sorts of things that shouldn't work because it ignores the stack. I definitely read a lot of primers on it before I built my Morph deck, and I still find out things that don't seem correct in fact are!
April 7, 2022 7:43 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #4
FalconForce: Since it's clear you got a satisfactory answer to your question and there don't seem to be any other follow-ups or corrections to be made, I marked it as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question.
Neotrup says... Accepted answer #1
Regal Leosaur remains face up on the bottom of the stack, and contributes all abilities to the resulting permanent. The permanent is considered to be face-down even though Regal Leosaur is face up because the top card is face down. It still has the "Whenever this creature mutates" ability, so it will trigger properly. To turn it face up you can pay to end the Manifest effect or to pay for Morph, but you ignore all text on Regal Leosaur other than the text box, so it's mana cost can't alter either of these costs in any way.
April 7, 2022 2:04 a.m.