Humble Defector + Triad of Fates
Asked by asdfadsf_34324 8 years ago
Assuming Humble Defector has a fate counter on it, can I tap Defector and then proceed to activate Triad of Fates's second ability and Flicker Defector before it switches possession to my opponent?
GoblinsInc says... Accepted answer #2
Yup. If you do the Triad's ability in response to the Defector's, when it returns to the field it will be a new object and stay under your control. You still draw cards.
June 1, 2015 1:20 a.m.
FALLEN-X-ANGEL says... #4
You can do the Triad of Fates but not Flicker because Flicker is a sorcery and cannot be played in-response to the creature being put under your opponents control.
June 1, 2015 4:21 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #6
If you're using the 2nd ability of the Triad then you don't have to respond before Defector's ability resolves. Notice that the Triad's ability says "return it to the battlefield under its owner's control". You'll get the Defector back even if you let it pass control to your opponent first.
If you wanted to use the 3rd ability of the Triad to get extra cards, then you would have to respond before Defector's ability resolves, because in this case the Triad's ability says "its controller draws two cards".
June 1, 2015 9:41 a.m.
asdfadsf_34324 says... #7
Interesting. So in a hypothetical situation, in either case, I could respond to a form of removal that targets Humble Defector by triggering his ability, and then assuming he already has a fate counter on him, respond with Triad of Fates' ability on top of that before any of it resolves?
June 1, 2015 10:56 a.m.
Yes, you could. The reason is that once an object changes zones (in this case, Triad will exile it), it becomes a new object with no memory of it's previous existance, meaning the ability on the stack won't give you opponent control of the Defector once it returns to the battlefield from Triads ability.
June 1, 2015 2:31 p.m.
@FALLEN-X-ANGEL You can use flicker with humble defector, you have to use flicker first, then use humble defector with flicker on the stack.
merrowMania says... #1
Yes. Once on the stack, the ability is independent from its source (the Humble Defector.
June 1, 2015 1:19 a.m.