How does counting the power and toughness on Katilda, Dawnhart Martyr work?

Asked by SuperWhoLockLand 1 year ago

I've been wanting to build a deck that incorporates Katilda, Dawnhart Martyr  Flip, and from reading her ability, I thought that her power and toughness would be equal to the number of permanents I control that are Spirits and/or enchantments, as in if I Katilda out, and I have a spirit enchantment creature token out, that her power and toughness would be 2/2 not 1/1, but when I showed the card to a friend of mine, he interpreted it as the number of permanents that are either spirits and or enchantments. Can she count a permanent more than once if it's both a spirit and an enchantment?

Delphen7 says... #1

First I'd like to note that if you control an enchantment spirit, Katilda will be at least a 2/2 because she counts herself.

I think you can rearrange the AND/OR in her text to look like this: "pow/tou are equal to permanents you control that are Spirits AND enchantments, Spirits, OR enchantments". In this wording she would count enchantment spirits only once.

Gidgetimer, Rhadamanthus : I would like confirmation on this though, as I couldn't find any rulings

July 11, 2022 10:45 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #2

Katilda, Dawnhart Martyr  Flip is counting permanents, each permanent can be counted once. The "and/or" is so that it includes a permanent that is both, since there is an interpretation of "or" that is exclusive. By herself Katilda is a 1/1. Eidolon of Countless Battles is only one permanent despite being both of the types that are being looked for.

For Katilda to count a permanent twice it would have to say "Katilda, Dawnhart Martyr's power and toughness are each equal to the number of Spirits you control plus the number of enchantments you control."

July 11, 2022 11:25 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #3

SuperWhoLockLand: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections to be made, I marked one of them as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question.

July 19, 2022 9:55 a.m.

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