Douse & Color Word Changers; Ability On Stack

Asked by Kwhill 2 years ago

Imagine the following scenario:
Douse is in play under Player 1's control.
Player 1 activates Douse targeting a red spell.
Player 2 casts Glamerdye targeting Douse .
The Glamerdye resolves and changes the text of Douse to counter green spells instead.
Player 2 argues that the ability already on the stack is affected and now says "Counter target green spell" and that the red spell will not be countered.
Player 1 cites 113.7a (Abilities exist independently of their source) to say that the ability is not affected by the change of text on the source card and that the red spell WILL be countered.

Who is right here?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

Casting Glamerdye on Douse will not affect the ability already on the stack. I personally wouldn't use 113.7a to explain this. I would use the rule that 113.7a is based on (109 and the fact that abilities on the stack are independent objects). But my explanation probably isn't as accessible as just using 113.7a.

July 18, 2021 8:55 a.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #2

Gidgetimer nails it. Because Glamerdye alters spells and permanents, and NOT abilities on the stack, the ability itself which had already been activated would be unaffected.

NB: If Player 2 had cast and resolved Glamerdye BEFORE casting their red spell (and thus before Douse 's ability had been activated, it would prevent Douse from targeting their red spell.

NB2: If instead of Douse Player 1 had used a Blue Elemental Blast and Player 2 had altered the text on that, it would work as Player 2 was hoping.

July 18, 2021 3:22 p.m.

Kwhill says... #3

Thanks everyone!

July 18, 2021 11:26 p.m.

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