Does Doubling Season second ability work for Planeswalkers as well?

Asked by Gannicus_NoVA 9 years ago

So, say I play a Elspeth, Sun's Champion then use her first ability while Doubling Season is already in play... Will she get +2 loyalty counters instead of one?

Seraphicate says... #1

Elspeth, Sun's Champion is a permanent, loyalty counters are still counters. The addition of loyalty counters still gets replaced by Doubling Season 's ability, as it does not specify what counters are excluded from it's effect.

November 1, 2014 9 a.m.

Boza says... Accepted answer #2

10/1/2005 Planeswalkers will enter the battlefield with double the normal amount of loyalty counters. However, if you activate an ability whose cost has you put loyalty counters on a planeswalker, the number you put on isn't doubled. This is because those counters are put on as a cost, not as an effect.

Gatherer has the answer to a lot of questions like this.

November 1, 2014 9:08 a.m.

KrosanTusker says... #3

Doubling Season does indeed double the number of loyalty counters added.

Furthermore, the initial four loyalty counters are placed on Elspeth when she enters the battlefield; Doubling Season sees this placement of counters and doubles it. She would start on eight and could use her ultimate straight away!

November 1, 2014 9:09 a.m.

Gannicus_NoVA says... #4

Damn. So to clarify If you use a planeswalkers ability while doubling season is in play would the planeswalker get double the amount of counters or not? And would the planeswalker start with double the amount of loyalty counters when it enters the battlefield? KrosanTusker Boza Seraphicate

November 1, 2014 9:19 a.m.

Gidgetimer says... #5

What Boza quoted is the gatherer ruling on Doubling Season so it is of course the correct answer.

Doubling Season specifies "If an effect would put...". The number in the lower right of a Planeswalker card indicates an ability who's effect is to put counters on the Planeswalker so this effect is doubled. The numbers before a Planeswalker's abilities indicate a cost to activate the ability. Since this is a cost of the ability and not an effect of it, these counters are not doubled.

November 1, 2014 10:03 a.m.

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