Chatterfang

Asked by proterran98 2 years ago

It’s EDH and I have 3 other opponents. I have Chatterfang, Squirrel General equipped with Blade of Selves and I attack. Do I get two 1/1 squirrels or do the other chatterfangs double it (so 8?) before I choose the token copys of chatterfang to be sacrificed?

What happens when I attack with the blade equipped.

Yesterday says... Accepted answer #1

All the token are created at the same time. The replacement effect of the new Chatterfang tokens doesn't apply to the rest of the tokens being created in the same batch.

You'll create 4 tokens total; 2 Chatterfangs and 2 1/1 Squirrels. Each of the regular Squirrel tokens will be respectively attacking one of your opponents alongside the Chatterfang tokens, because they were also created by the Blade of Selves ability.

And then as you said, you'll have to move all but one of the Chatterfangs to the graveyard as a state-based action before anything else progresses.

May 26, 2021 4:35 a.m.

Guerric says... #2

Yesterday is correct. They key thing he mentioned is that the token creating ability is a replacement effect. Essentially, that means if Blade of Selves would create the tokens, which in this case it is, it adds to tokens to the mix. Once the tokens resolve together there are no more tokens that would be created, and so the token abilities never resolve. Also, even if you had an instant speed ability to make another token of some kind to put on the stack, it would never have a chance to take advantage of the tokens' token creating ability because they would need to be sacrificed as a state-based action, which doesn't use the stack.

May 27, 2021 11:03 a.m.

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