Can protection from a color protect.. from itself?

Asked by WormFrizzer 9 years ago

INCEPTION

I have Hada Freeblade on the table and cast Kabira Evangel - I choose white. Then I cast another Kabira Evangel and choose black. What happens? What happens if I choose first black, then white?

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

Protection stops 4 categories of actions remembered by the mnemonic DEBT. Soemething with protection cannot be:

  • Damaged

  • Enchanted/Equipped

  • Blocked

  • Targeted

By a source with the attribute that it has protection from. Kabira Evangel 's ability does none of these things so protection will not affect it.

June 29, 2014 12:56 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #2

There's no inception here. Both effects apply.

Remember that protection can be summed up as DEBT:

  1. Damage that would be dealt to the protected object is prevented
  2. Enchantments and equipment cannot be attached to the protected object. Currently-attached permanents become unattached.
  3. You can't block protected creatures.
  4. You can't target a protected object with spells or abilities of the relevant quality

Kabira Evangel does nothing that protection would prevent or prohibit.

June 29, 2014 12:59 p.m.

pskinn01 says... #3

protection prevents D.E.B.T. from spells/permanents with certain traits

D - damage from
E - Enchanted by or equipped byB - Blocked by
T - Targeted by

None of the effects that are mention do any of these things....counters are colorless, they do not enchant, and only a spell or an ability that says "target" is prevented...

So it would not matter the order that you choose

But if you gave some thing like: Thrashing Wumpus protection from black, then it would not damage it self.

June 29, 2014 1:03 p.m.

WormFrizzer says... #4

Thanks. My inner Johnny just died a little.

June 29, 2014 1:05 p.m.

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