Barrin and Inalla legendary interaction
Asked by phepa 3 years ago
I cast Barrin, Tolarian Archmage and i pay for Inalla, Archmage Ritualist
trigger and i choose the original Barrin to die cause of legendary rule. I am pretty sure that i cant bounce the Barrin token with the original Barrin. So i target any other creature with Original Barrin ETB. But now i am not sure how the token ETB could be utilized.
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Can i even target the original Barrin with the token ETB before i move the original Barrin to graveyard cause of legendary rule, or its like that original Barrin is moved to graveyard even before i can target him with token ETB.
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If the original Barrin could be targeted with token ETB, than he will be moved to graveyard, than what will happen with original Barrin, which is now laying in graveyard when the token ETB is resolved? Will it fizzles cause of not available target to bounce or he will be bounced back to my hand even from graveyard?
Thank you very much :)
On another note, Barrin, Tolarian Archmage will still draw you a card for bounced tokens. Just like dying triggers, the token moves to the other zone (graveyard, hand, etc) and then ceases to exist.
August 27, 2020 10 p.m.
When the token enters the battlefield, you choose which one to keep before choosing a target for it's ability. Because the original Barrin, Tolarian Archmage is already in the graveyard, you can't choose it as the target of the copy's ability, regardless of whether it would fizzle.
August 28, 2020 12:01 a.m.
Can you not stack it so the real Barrin triggers first, bouncing an opponents creature, then have the token ETB targeting the original, while sacking the token the the legend rule?
Four mana for a bounce + draw a card with buyback seems good, or does that not work?
January 25, 2024 7:17 p.m.
@ksleazy You can do that, however it will reasult in a 4 mana bounce with buyback, no card draw. As the sequence you described ends up with the real Barrin, Tolarian Archmage in your hand and the copy lost to the legend rule, there won't be one around on your end step to trigger drawing a card. You'll also notice that Gidgetimer prefaced the answer with "Bypassing the logic of why you would keep a token that only lasts until EOT over the original and just answering the questions" as the question assumed that the copy was the one being kept by the legend rule, rather than the real one, so all answers here kept with that assumption even though keeping the real one is an option.
January 26, 2024 10:35 a.m.
Neotrup... You're totally right... duuuuhhhh.. there has to be a Barrin on the field for the draw to trigger. Thanks for the reply!
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
Bypassing the logic of why you would keep a token that only lasts until EOT over the original and just answering the questions:
Original Barrin will be put into the graveyard before the copy Barrin's trigger goes on the stack, so he will not be a valid target.
If a creature changes zones after it is targeted, but before the spell or ability resolves it will no longer be targeted by that spell or ability. If there are no valid targets left when a targeted spell or ability tries to resolve it will fizzle.
August 27, 2020 9:39 p.m.