acolyte of bahamut + the ur-dragon

Asked by Rhyas 1 year ago

if i have Acolyte of Bahamut on the field and The Ur-Dragon in the command zone can i still cast The Ur-Dragon for 2 colorless mana less if he is the first dragon that i cast that turn or does The Ur-Dragon have to be on the field?

Delphen7 says... Accepted answer #1

For future reference, you can link cards by wrapping them in double brackets ( [ ] these guys). Acolyte of Bahamut, The Ur-Dragon.

You will not be able to cast The Ur-Dragon for the reduced cost. Even though he will have the text "The first Dragon spell you cast each turn costs less to cast" while in the command zone, the discount will only apply while he is on the battlefield, and therefore cannot apply to himself.

604.2: "Static abilities create continuous effects, some of which are prevention effects or replacement effects. These effects are active as long as the permanent with the ability remains on the battlefield and has the ability, or as long as the object with the ability remains in the appropriate zone, as described in rule 113.6."

September 30, 2022 6:14 p.m.

Everything Delphen said is correct except that ur dragon will not have the the ability while in the command zone.

The way Acolyte’s ability is worded is it only grants it to commander creatures you own that are on the battlefield. If it affected them outside of the battlefield, it would say commander creature “cards” you own, and commander creature “spells” you own.

October 1, 2022 1:20 a.m.

Delphen7 says... #3

Raging_Squiggle Thanks for the correction!

I think I got too caught up in 'you own'

October 1, 2022 5:59 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #4

In the future, please remember to hit the green "Mark as Answer" button to indicate your question has been resolved. As this question has been answered for several days, I have gone ahead and marked an answer on your behalf, with the caveat that the addendum provided by Raging_Squiggle's post applies.

October 7, 2022 3:12 p.m.

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