Deck for PPTQ, Dimir control, thoughts?
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Posted on Dec. 25, 2018, 8:59 p.m. by TUMTUM
Happy holidays! I hope you are having a wonderful week. I came across a dilemma concerning my pptq deck for an upcoming tournament. It is dimir control and it's pretty standard maindeck wise but I feel it can still use fine tuning that maybe I can't recognize, I also think the sideboard could use some help too, so yeah. If you would like to help me that would be so amazing and thank you so much! Dimir Control: pptq
stensiagamekeeper says... #3
Looks good. I do have couple of super nit-picky suggestions that could maybe push the power level just a bit (although I play 4 Quasiduplicate and Murmuring Mystics in my UB control deck so this is rich coming from meXD).
I prefer 2 Doom Whisperer over 2 Dream Eater specifically in UB as that deck doesn't have the ability to stabilize quite as effectively as UR or URW and is a little lighter on the counters. While a wrath can sometimes get you there usually you're just trading cards with the creature decks until you run out first after drawing more lands. This often means that you end up only stabilizing after you've activated search/recast campaign enough times that you've made up for your higher land count but by that stage it's often too late. Doom Whisperer is a way around this however as it is way better at blocking traffic and giving you a chance to do the search/campaign thing without getting swung at by a bunch of 3/2s. It's also a so-so answer to carnage tyrant btw. Against control the flash does seem better at avoiding counter magic. Something to consider is that if your control opponent sees dream eater they will be more likely to leave in things like Lightning Strike and Lava Coil making Thief of Sanity worse but they'll probably expect it anyways.
Apart from that Memorial to Genius is probably better than Arch of Orazca seeing as getting the city's blessing is not a trivial matter and often 2 cards upfront is better than 3 or 4 over many turns. I'd also consider the possibility of playing against any Steel Leaf Champion deck as that matchup seems atrociously bad. Mono-red also seems tough as your win cons don't really do anything against them and they can always draw more burn than you have counters late game even if you stabilize. I also don't think UB is well positioned due to it's complete lack of pro-activity and the issue of whether your answers match their threats but as they say if you know your deck well enough it's always possible you do well. :)
December 26, 2018 11:18 a.m.
stensiagamekeeper, first off, thank you so much for your suggestions! Do you think Dream Eater could go anywhere in the deck? maybe sideboard in for 2 Thief of Sanity? And I do think there is room to become more counter heavy, what do you think? And lastly, I agree on your choice for Memorial to Genius. Again thank you so much and have a great rest of your day.
December 26, 2018 2:51 p.m.
stensiagamekeeper I also looked at Chromatic Black as a viable deck. Would you believe that the deck would give me a better chance at doing well. I would think they would be the same, but I'd like to hear your opinion.
December 26, 2018 8:25 p.m.
stensiagamekeeper says... #6
Yeah, forgot about the Doom Whisperer price tag. Still happy I could help. I like the updated list immensely.
As far as Chromatic Black goes (I'm guessing you mean something like this https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/alieldrazi-11302018-updating-chromatic-black) While I haven't seen anything like this recently my gut is telling me that this is an example of a deck that looks good on arena but has issues in more spiky contexts. I've played Cabal Stronghold before and I find that going from 6 to 7, 7 to 9 and 8 to 11 is relatively weak in comparison with actually having almost perfect 3 color mana in standard. The deck devotes way too many slots to mana intensive card advantage in its artifacts, karns and tutors let alone the Niv-Mizzet, Parun that's more like a 3 card combo than anything.
That said, this is way cheaper than grixis control for example. If you want to be mono-black in my opinion you are probably better being less "rube goldbergy" and just using the Cabal Strongholds as convenient freebies rather than building around em so you risk drawing the wrong half of your deck in the early turns. I'm thinking something like Stronghold Black.
Flooremoji says... #2
Maybe Nezahal, Primal Tide in the sideboard?
December 26, 2018 12:45 a.m.