Eldritch Moon Spoiler Thread
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Posted on June 20, 2016, 11:36 a.m. by DarkLaw
I don't think there is one yet, at least not one posted recently. If there is, feel free to correct me.
Can I just say that I love the design of Emrakul? It won't break formats, but it could see play in a few formats, and I love how it synergises with other cards.
So Emrakul has protection from instants. It's not dead to removal the turn you play it. The key fact is, you get to control your opponent's turn. This allows you to suicide a bunch of their resources and get rid of all their sorcery speed removal before they untap. It's similar to casting a couple of murders and thoughtseizes.
Then, of course, obvious delirium.
One particularly nice piece of design is that Nahiri actually enables delirium, not madness. That threw us off until now. She then fetches Emrakul to do 13, and hardcast it in a couple of turns.
Problem is, I don't think it kills enough. It's still a good play for around 9 mana, but those cards are hard to play in older formats unless it just wins like the original.
June 20, 2016 11:47 a.m.
Phaetion, can you expound on the Gisela and Bruna thing?
June 20, 2016 11:55 a.m.
capriom85 If you've read the UR, you find out that they bonded into one Eldrazi Angel, I think. It lost me like everyone else their sanity.
June 20, 2016 11:58 a.m.
Yeah, Sigarda's probably fine.
The biggest barrier to Emnrakul (that's my new name for it) seeing standard play is Ulamog potentially being better. I would personally say that Emrakul helps you out a lot more for around the same mana. Being able to take all of your opponent's best cards is just so useful. It can save you from things that Ulamog can't. But why not run both?
June 20, 2016 12:06 p.m.
demonicgrizzly says... #11
that artwork is stunning. you really get a sense of how screwed you are when she is coming at you
June 20, 2016 12:10 p.m.
The two biggest problems that I have with Emnrakul is that it can be countered (but at least you get the cast trigger) and that it hilariously dies to Clip Wings.
June 20, 2016 12:15 p.m.
demonicgrizzly says... #13
emmy dies to a lot of edict effects. Crackling Doom is another one, but Clip Wings is much funnier
June 20, 2016 12:18 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #14
The name is utterly fantastic.
Flying trample 13/13 will probably see play at least in Standard. Big question is whether it's better than Newlamog. I think that will depend on how backbreaking the second ability is.
June 20, 2016 12:20 p.m.
Epochalyptik or ChiefBell - feature this thread perhaps?
June 20, 2016 12:23 p.m.
The mindslaver-pass is probably about as good as a Time Walk. It's hard to tell until the set is out.
I've noticed a few people listing cards from Khans to reference Emnrakul. Ugin's Nexus to turn it into a true Mindslaver, and Crackling Doom to kill it. Is it a part of the Emnrakul insanity?
June 20, 2016 12:38 p.m.
Ostrichman01 says... #17
I love how it is a 13/13 to stay in flavor for INNISTRAD. Also, the trailer nearly made me throw up how cool it is.
June 20, 2016 12:48 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #18
And now we can finally realize our dream of playing Emrakul in multiplayer EDH.
EDIT: On an unrelated note, did you see that MythicSpoiler just slapped the EDM spoiler on a pre-existing page? Read the comment threads below the Emrakul spoiler image. So many people not taking the time to read when the comments were posted. Lulz
June 20, 2016 1:08 p.m. Edited.
All right! All 3 titans are back in Standard together! Now I just want a new Tamiyo, the rest of the hand lands, or a reprint of the check lands..........
June 20, 2016 1:12 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #20
Yes. New Tami. Or new Best Planeswalker (aka Tibalt).
June 20, 2016 1:14 p.m.
Liliana looks extremely powerful in the promotion picture.
And she has the chain veil.
Propably gonna be Liliana vs. Emrakul? Like Zombies vs. Aliens. Would be to awesome to be true tho.
Also, dat Emrakul. Not really as strong as it could be, but I love the artwork.
Also, a free double-sided premium-foil zombie token in each prerelease kit, pretty decent. The dice looks crap tho.
June 20, 2016 1:34 p.m.
That's not an Emrakul, but Nerfacthul. Still, I love the story in this set, the flavour and shameless copying from Lovecraft books, 'cause I them I love even more xD
June 20, 2016 2:03 p.m.
I don't see how Liliana can win single-handedly, but maybe with help?
June 20, 2016 2:11 p.m.
averagenovice74 says... #25
Yeah, I like the art and the feel of the card, but the newemrakul is a bit janky on a playing aspect. If it had maybe haste(makes sense with protection to instant-take 13 to the dome) or
"ETB: Gain control of all opponent's permanents until end of turn. For each different converted mana cost, that player must sacrifice that many at the end of turn."
Something that says "finality" to the game like Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger does. I feel that this is closer to that of what they could have done with Kozilek, the Great Distortion.
I do like the extra turn clause though, like "you have one extra turn to figure out how to save yourself from complete obliteration.
June 20, 2016 2:25 p.m.
AgentGreen says... #26
June 20, 2016 2:32 p.m.
FaintlyThere says... #27
I don't think anyone has shared this but here is the artwork for the fused Bruna & Gisela
June 20, 2016 2:39 p.m.
Thanks FaintlyThere. I didn't wanna sleep tonight anyway. lol.
June 20, 2016 2:46 p.m.
FaintlyThere says... #30
I don't think They have released the card yet but this was shown during the reveal and storyline. I'm sure within the next few days they will give us the actual card. But I can definitely agree with will probably be the other Legendary Creature in the set
I also see Nahiri and Sorin joining forces and putting their problems aside to face this new common enemy but that's just speculation
June 20, 2016 2:49 p.m.
FaintlyThere says... #32
I would love to see both new bruna and Gisela cards that have the feature that if you control both Bruna and Gisela then sac both and put out (This fused Bruna and Gisela card...i'm gonna call her Brusela, Devoid Angel) and she has some kind of stupid enter the battlefield affect like destroy all non-colorless creatures, for each non-token, non-colorless creature destroyed put a 1/1 counter on her (flying, First Strike, Protection from Colored Spells)
June 20, 2016 2:54 p.m.
June 20, 2016 2:58 p.m. Edited.
Set symbol = Kool Aid Man. Emrakul is evolved form of Kool Aid Man confirmed.
OH YEEEEA!
June 20, 2016 3:01 p.m.
demonicgrizzly says... #35
i am excited for a possible new liliana or (in my wildest drea,s) a liliana of the veil reprint
June 20, 2016 3:12 p.m.
DrFunk27 well, since the zombies don't have a mind of their own are the best suited to fight Emmy, just need to keep Liliana safe from the control of Emmy
June 20, 2016 3:32 p.m.
FaintlyThere says... #38
be great if the New Liliana had the ability to control target creature especially since The Promised End doesn't have protection against abilities
June 20, 2016 3:39 p.m.
The Bruna and Gisela abomination will be interesting to see what colors it will be under. I highly doubt it will be a jeskai triple colored card. I'd bet either colorless like Emrakul, or possibly dropping white and being an izzet colored angel just like how some eldrazi had izzet color requirements.
Also, I know protection is no longer an evergreen word, but does this mean its safe to presume protection will become a keyword for this set since this Emrakul has it with no reminder text on the card? It's kind of weird they'd give Her protection when hexproof would have been just as viable.
Also it's curious that She dies to Blasphemous Act and Into the Maw of Hell which are both 13 damage cards that originated from the original Innistrad block. We might just see a reprint or another card that revolves around 13 damage removal. (Or quite possibly not.)
June 20, 2016 3:45 p.m.
AgentGreen says... #40
Here's a good question
Are we going to see the return of Devoid?
June 20, 2016 3:47 p.m.
averagenovice74 says... #41
AgentGreen yeah nahiri's ultimate is sweet with newemrakul, literally sends 13 and you can't stop it unless you have flyers or something like Sinister Concoction to go off. I like the flavor but if it was between emrakul or Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger in a purely competitive standpoint, I'm probably taking ulamog because he just rips their library of twenty cards.
June 20, 2016 3:51 p.m.
AgentGreen says... #42
Agreed
Out of the three; Ulamog is still king because it starts by wrecking the board; then instant-mill 20 on attack. Very difficult to come back from that. And it's difficult to remove. Emrakul can still be removed from sorcery-removal like Ruinous Path. Ulamog is MUCH harder to remove
June 20, 2016 3:59 p.m.
Also what did everyone think of that spoiler video of Gideon, Chandra, and Nissa getting entangled in the tentacles? Are we supposed to presume them to become a part of the endless swarm?
June 20, 2016 4:04 p.m.
Nightdragon779 says... #44
Ahh Bruna/Gisela Art is so creepy!! Also I love how Emrakul is called "promised end." There were so many hints dropped in SOI.
June 20, 2016 4:09 p.m.
SwaggyMcSwagglepants says... #47
Certainly is interesting. As DarkLaw pointed out, I love the design synergy. It's really amazing.
Maybe Liliana becomes the 5th Member of the Oath of the Gatewatch. That seems at the very least plausible considering she has to work with the other members to save the plane.
I wonder what the other characters of innistrad are going to be like, such as Thalia, Gerald and Gisa, Olivia Voldaren, and the likes.
June 20, 2016 4:21 p.m.
Hmmm...that legendary werewolf didn't scream EDH to me...then again, I'm not one of the werewolf fans. I'm glad they got their card though.
June 20, 2016 4:35 p.m.
As an avid EDH player, that new werewolf is possibly the worst card they could have printed to support the tribe. And at mythic? Just awful.
Phaetion says... #2
I would guess that there are two legendary colorless creatures because... Show
June 20, 2016 11:37 a.m.