Thoughts on these walkers

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Posted on July 13, 2020, 3:12 p.m. by TriusMalarky

Garruk, Cursed Huntsman, Garruk, Apex Predator, Vraska, Relic Seeker

Are these good as top-end value engines?

DarkHero says... #2

I know nothing of Pioneer I'll admit, but in general, All three of them are essentially the same. They provide value, but they are High CMC which marginalizes that quite a bit. 6-7 cmc better outright win you the game in a 60 card format.

July 13, 2020 3:30 p.m.

FSims81 says... #3

The beauty of Pioneer is the amount of ramp you have access to that can really make higher CMC walkers like this feel like 3-4 CMC walkers. OBviously building something that would let you cheat out these cards more quickly would provide you the best value in utilizing them.

July 13, 2020 4:42 p.m.

TriusMalarky says... #4

I was just building a Sultai Superfriends control deck. The unbanning of Oath of Nissa right after I decided to brew was nice.

I have some other smaller walkers as well, I was just trying to decide if Tasigur or one of these guys was better.

July 13, 2020 4:48 p.m.

Argy says... #5

Vraska is the only one of these that might work, but there is a better Vraska to use.

Apex Predator is waaaaay too slow.

July 15, 2020 9:16 a.m. Edited.

thunderbug says... #6

Apex is the best of those but I like all of them for various applications. All of those walkers will need a ramp deck or possibly a control deck of some kind to be truely useful though.

November 28, 2020 10:28 a.m.

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