So, is Jace just a Chad / player or what?

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Posted on Jan. 11, 2022, 3:47 a.m. by TypicalTimmy

If I recall, didn't Jace and Liliana have a relationship? Then we saw Jace and Vraska?

I've heard Jace and Nissa also hooked up. Is that true?

Is our boy Jace just a Chad? Lol

Gidgetimer says... #2

"Our boy" Jace is a Marty Stu and I don't know who left fanfic writers in charge of Magic lore.

January 11, 2022 5:35 a.m.

plakjekaas says... #3

Well, he is a mind-controlling mage... oh wow it's way creepier than just being a chad...

January 11, 2022 5:36 a.m.

golgarigirl says... #4

Jace was the original 'main character' planeswalker, since he was thought as 'most relatable' for the majority of the playerbase. Which should be telling of what WOTC thought of their playerbase, really. He was a sullen, withdrawn pile of power fantasy tropes wrapped up in a mind-mage flavored shell.

He was originally in a relationship with Liliana, mostly so she could get information (hooking our nerd up with the hot chick? Nothing like a little wish fulfillment in our power fantasy, subtle WOTC...). Needless to say, it didn't work out. Mostly because they're both not great people who weren't really invested in a real relationship.

Around Ixalan, they started giving him a legitimate character via an amnesia overhaul. This is when you see fewer outright mill mechanics on his cards and get a lot more mention of him using illusion magic in stories.

He then, through that Ixalan storyline, ended up in a relationship with Vraska. It's not my favorite relationship...I think it's poorly fleshed out romantically, but's a lot healthier than his previous relationship.

I've never heard about Jace and Nissa. I only know about Nissa being linked to Chandra, and that was mostly them flirting instead of a real relationship.

I do like how Jace's character changed in Ixalan. He's made an effort to interact with other people, especially the Gatewatch, and has become more aware of his own shortcomings (he's aware that he's not the most adept at empathy and leadership/social situations, for example...though he still puts forth the effort and relies on others).

I would neither consider him a 'Chad' (though I am really not sure what makes a Chad) nor a 'player'. He does not dump a person exclusively to get with another, nor does he date multiple at once. His motives aren't shallow, and these relationships happen over a span of years.

January 11, 2022 8:45 a.m. Edited.

Niko9 says... #5

I don't know a ton of the lore, but from the bit I've read Jace always come off as a very try hard character. Not so much from his personality or actions, but I mean from a design standpoint. He's always written as a character who is trying to be something. Which, I mean that isn't always bad, but my favorite characters are always ones who are trying to be themselves. My favorite planeswalker by far is Huatli, and a big part of that is that she always came across as uniquely Huatli. Jace, more often, is whatever somebody thinks will be cool in the story. They're two very different styles of character creation, and I'm not saying either is better, but I sure prefer the way they did Huatli : )

January 11, 2022 9:26 a.m.

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