New threat in legacy?
Legacy forum
Posted on March 12, 2015, 4:54 p.m. by Mediumrick
I run a BG loam pox legacy deck that is super fun to play. As I was perusing the new DTK spoilers I noticed a card that interested me.
I currently run a singleton Tombstalker alongside a single Nether Spirit. I want your thoughts on whether risen executioner could take the tombstalker's spot as a finisher. I know it's harder to cast but it can be recurred and doesn't block my Nether Spirit from coming back from the grave for the rest of the game. Bloodghast is also an option but with risen executioner I can cast it without depending on landfall and it has a bigger swing. Is it worth testing out??
julianjmoss says... #3
The four mana is really rough considering he cant block and doesnt have haste though. Bloodghast has conditional haste and doest require mana to cast so he is different
March 12, 2015 5:07 p.m.
Mediumrick says... #4
So in your opinion is Bloodghast or Tombstalker more value?
March 12, 2015 5:17 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #6
Eh. I don't really see this guy impacting Legacy too much. 4 CMC in the format is rather high, and it should be impactful. Exceptions are MUD, 12 Post, Reanimator, and S&T.
This guy isn't a Mindsculptor or Batterskull.
March 12, 2015 6:40 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #7
How would Tasigur work in Pox? Out of curiosity.
March 12, 2015 6:41 p.m.
I honestly wouldn't consider Tasigur in pox. Yes, he comes down earlier than Tombstalker. However, he lacks evasion, has one less power, and I haven't found his ability to reuse cards from grave to be too useful for the mana investment. Expect to have your opponent gleefully give you stuff like Raven's Crime and Innocent Blood, the former you don't WANT back in your hand really and the latter you don't want when you have a legendary and non-recurrable creature on the field.
March 12, 2015 7:05 p.m.
julianjmoss says... #9
The reason bloodghast is great in pox is because he is recurring so you can play cards like smallpox without the fear of losing your threats. if you lose tasigur, he's gone.
March 12, 2015 7:10 p.m.
Yeah, the ability to survive untargeted removal that hits all players is pretty much the key deciding factor for pox playability. It's why uber-budget pox is willing to play Chimeric Idol of all things.
March 12, 2015 7:16 p.m.
jandrobard says... #11
@ppledger Hey! Uber-budget pox decks have feelings too!
March 12, 2015 7:28 p.m.
michaelwkraus says... #12
the one thing ive noticed in the legacy being played where i am, and most of all the other stores is.. Rest in Peace is being played MAINDECK... because of all the "reanimate" being played.. Swords to Plowshares is your biggest threat, that i see... if you want to reanimate a threat, what about Griselbrand .. if you want to "cheat" it in, that would be your best bet. draw engine, lifelink.. and a 7/7 to boot... yea, swords can get it, but you can get 7 cards!! that is a huge advantage... Surgical Extraction, Extirpate are also big trouble... try to test it out, and see if it works for your deck, but as for a "finisher"... nope... there are alot of other better finishers out there....
March 12, 2015 8:07 p.m.
@jandrobard Hey, I'm not dissing uber-budget pox. It's my deck of choice, after all. Chimeric Idol is just a really weird thing to be winning most of my games with. The fact that uber-budget pox can use it as a win condition is frankly an impressive feat. I must admit, though: the only thing I've found more fun than killing off opponents with the agonizing slowness of a pox deck is doing so while beating them to death with a 3/3 metal turtle. :P
Servo_Token says... #2
Yes, it's definitely worth testing. I had a similar thought when I saw it, but figured that it was just worse than Bloodghast. As a consistent 4 mana 4/3, it still dies to a lot, but it might just be better than tombstalker.
March 12, 2015 4:58 p.m.