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Posted on Aug. 3, 2020, 5:09 p.m. by DemonDragonJ
Mark Rosewater posted this article, today, in which he explains the likelihood of each of the "future shifted" cards from Future Sight ever being reprinted.
Some of his ratings do not bother me, but several do: specifically, I am very displeased that he said that Bitter Ordeal, Darksteel Garrison, and Fleshwrither were all unlikely to be reprinted, since I am very fond of all of those cards, and feel that they all have much unexplored potential.
What does everyone else say about this article? How do you feel about Rosewater's ratings of those cards? Why not reprint them in a non-standard set?
Haven't checked out the article, but I always found it a little suspect that much of what was new from Future Sight would ever make it into far future sets. I rather always figured the aspects of that set most likely to be part of future print runs was the art/card styles and not so much the mechanics.
August 3, 2020 5:48 p.m.
I was excited to see that Arcanum Wings and therefore Aura Swap will likely be reprinted. I think it's a super fun ability.
It's annoying to me that they're "moving away from doing a lot of tutoring effects" and that's why they won't reprint Transfigure. I know what they mean is their weak "shuffling makes the game too long" excuse, but I like narrow tutor effects like Transmute.
August 3, 2020 6:37 p.m.
SynergyBuild says... #5
abby315 seems to me like just a way to cheat out a massive aura every time. Whatever the cheapest one is seems likely to be the best at all times idk.
August 3, 2020 6:43 p.m.
He says in the article that the "Tribal" keyword is not being pursued by them anymore. So very unlikely that they follow up with more tribal non-creature cards.
I must say I was not a fan of the garrison card when it was originally printed. I liked the flavor of it but the garrison is just an enchant on a land that is now an artifact. They already have plenty of land enchants and the garrison really does not do anything new or different enough to keep making more of them. It became part of a space that doesnt need it or benefit from it.
There is only 1 or 2 archetypes that are built around a specific land so adding indestructible to a land when most metas dont include land destruction anyways seems too niche to give up a deck slot for it. And any deck that truly wants land protected can run Equinox or Terra Eternal or something similar which are much stronger than the garrison.
It is sad what he said about tutors though. Personally, stompy decks are not my thing and losing tutors just makes it that much harder to be competitive with anything that isnt just ramp-stompy.
August 3, 2020 7:48 p.m.
SynergyBuild yeah, I like the idea of cheating out a big Aura like Eldrazi Conscription because I'm a combo player at heart; but I assume if they built a set around it there could be other fun playstyles.
August 3, 2020 7:49 p.m.
channelfireball12345 says... #8
SynergyBuild for what it’s worth, gravestorm doesn’t work with treasure tokens, as the mechanic specifically states that it requires permanents to be put into a graveyard, and, as tokens, treasures are never actually put into a graveyard upon being sacrificed.
August 3, 2020 8:18 p.m.
channelfireball12345 says... #9
It strikes me as odd that Wizards is claiming to be ‘moving away from doing a lot of tutoring effects’ given that they literally just reprinted Grim Tutor in M21. Oh well. I feel like this isn’t the first time that, as a player, I’ve been misled or confused by a conflicting patterns of actions or statements they’ve made...
August 3, 2020 8:25 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #10
abby315, I, also, have always severely disliked that reason, as it is a lame excuse at best, as I know that some players may dislike excessive shuffling but the majority have no problem with it, and WotC should not presume that a certain percentage of the players represent all players.
August 3, 2020 8:31 p.m.
DeinoStinkus is correct, token permanents that are sacrificed or otherwise sent to the graveyard do indeed hit the graveyard. They exist there for a brief moment and then almost immediately cease to exist in that zone as a state based effect regarding the fate of tokens in zones other than the battlefield.
August 3, 2020 8:33 p.m.
channelfireball12345 says... #12
jaymc1130 I didn’t know that, thanks for clearing up the nature of that interaction actually.
August 3, 2020 8:39 p.m.
channelfireball12345 I think the operative word is "a lot"; it's the same reason that they don't want to put Fetchlands in a standard set, because they say shuffling and searching slows down the game too much. So I think they're fine with printing one tutor card in a set, but having a mechanic based around searching your library is something they don't want to do.
Which I think is stupid.
August 3, 2020 8:41 p.m.
Almost 30 years playing this game and I still learn new rules stuff constantly. Partly because they seem to change a lot over time, but also because new interactions need to be defined as new cards get printed.
I only just found out that you can cast morph creatures off the top of the library with Mystic Forge like 2 weeks ago, which seems crazy as the cards have a color identity while in your library, but apparently the moment you choose to cast a morph creature in an alternative fashion other than normal casting it ceases to be a colored card and becomes colorless as of the decision to cast it which is apparently the timing for when Mystic Forge checks to see if the card is colorless. Supposedly this was a change to make things function more intuitively the way the new Adventure creatures function (where the decision to cast the card determines it's characteristics) but none of this strikes me as intuitive or even fundamentally sound. In any case, that's how those rules now work and when I learned about the Mystic Forge interaction I just sat staring at my computer screen with my jaw hanging open for a good 10 minutes while I scratched my head. This stuff can be crazy hard to keep up with, I don't envy tournament judges.
August 3, 2020 8:48 p.m.
I was disappointed he didn't talk about the likelihood of a Grove of the Burnwillows or Nimbus Maze cycle being (re)printed.
I would totally run both cycles in my EDH deck if they were given the same treatment as Graven Cairns in Lorwyn. I'm hoping the upcoming Zendikar block at least adopts one of them.
August 3, 2020 10:43 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #16
StopShot, Mark Rosewater did say at the end of the article that he would discuss the remaining cards in next week's article, so I expect that he shall discuss those specific cards, then.
August 3, 2020 11:43 p.m.
channelfireball12345 says... #17
StopShot Btw, it’s not a huge deal but I’m pretty sure the upcoming Zendikar set isn’t part of a larger block.
August 4, 2020 1:06 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #18
Here is part 2 of the article.
In this part, I noticed that Rosewater stated that several cards were unlikely to be reprinted, despite the fact that they have already been reprinted. Was he not aware of that?
I am glad that he believes that there shall eventually be a full cycle for Nimbus Maze and that the cycle for Horizon Canopy will eventually be completed, as they are excellent lands.
August 10, 2020 12:24 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #19
Here is the final installment of this series, and I agree with most of Rosewater's assessments, but I do wish that he had given a higher rating to both Patrician's Scorn and Street Wraith, since I feel that those are great cards that have much unexplored potential.
SynergyBuild says... #2
Gravestorm is awful to keep track of, I don't even like storm count for obvious reasons where it's hard to let your opponent keep track of it without telling them that you run the card in your deck. With treasure tokens a plenty, gravestorm is absurd to work with. I don't mind the idea of more garrison style cards, but they are real strange to imagine working with, what's the answer? Land destruction being better doesn't sound like what I want xD.
Also, less tutors is fairly common as a standard rule, but these are why I doubt those mechanics will be reprinted. I like all the cards!
August 3, 2020 5:22 p.m.