Simic Choke Control Needs Help

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Posted on Dec. 10, 2020, 12:54 a.m. by bjgivesbj

Ever since I saw the card Spreading Seas, the fantasy of designing a deck that locks a player out by turning all of his/her lands into islands has been unable to leave my mind. It started as mono blue with nothing but identity-changing land enchantments and creatures with islandwalk, but sadly it was to weak to contend with any deck with the smallest semblance of synergy. It also had nothing to stop creatures that had snuck onto the battlefield. You see, even though I could turn lands into islands, I could not stop my opponent from tapping them.

Then I found a card called Choke. To me, it made the gimmick tantalizingly close to something casually competitive. Combine this with Propaganda to keep creatures from attacking and finally Typhoon as a win condition when the opponent has 20 islands. Finally, I added a Stormtide Leviathan for good measure.

I would love feedback on this deck! For one, should I add more creature or permanent bounce such as Unsummon? Are there any other cards that have synergy with this deck? Should I add cards that reward me for playing enchantments and/or cycling (many of my cards have cycle effects)? How would you feel if you played this deck against your friends? How would you feel if you had to play against this deck?

Choke Em Out!?

Sounds like fun, I don't know how much I can help besides linking your deck though ;)

December 10, 2020 1:01 a.m.

wallisface says... #3

You want to be running a bunch of Oboro, Palace in the Clouds so that you can perma-lock your opponents lands to stay as islands with Quicksilver Fountain (on your turn target you Oboro with Fountain, but before it resolves return it to hand. Rinse & repeat while your opponent is stuck in 100% island sad-town

December 10, 2020 4:37 a.m.

King_marchesa says... #4

Stormtide Leviathan makes your lands into islands too so watch out for that.

December 10, 2020 7:59 a.m.

MagicMarc says... #5

You could run Capsize in the deck. This provides a target anything bounce and is repeatable.

You can use it to help with Quicksilver Fountain to bounce one of your own lands to keep the flood counters going.

You can't run Stormtide Leviathan with Choke or you will lock yourself down too. Find another giant blue monster instead.

December 10, 2020 11:34 a.m.

bjgivesbj says... #6

Wow thanks for the tips! this deck just may become a reality after all.

December 10, 2020 12:10 p.m.

wallisface says... #7

While others are saying not to run Stormtide Leviathan because you’ll choke yourself, its a bit more complicated than that. If your opponent is already locked down and helpless, then this card ensures that they stay that way. If this is your wincon, then locking yourself at the end of the game to swing with an 8/8 and win seems fine to me. Its not like you’ll be expecting to have to cast extra spells after this, if your lock is in place. I guess just be careful not to cast it if your opponent still has wiggle room

December 10, 2020 2:19 p.m.

wallisface says... #8

Also, another big creature you may like is Elder Deep-Fiend. Your Cloud of Faeries will make it cheaper to cast, and it can tap down lands if your opponent is trying to save up for a larger-casting-cost spell

December 10, 2020 2:24 p.m.

sylvannos says... #9

I've been toying around with this idea for a while in Modern:

Root Maze Choke Hold

Modern* sylvannos


Note, this deck isn't really well optimized and some of the card choices are out of date. The main idea is to use Root Maze and Choke to deprive your opponent of mana. You can also use Mind Bend to transform additional copies of Choke into more problems for your opponent.

I'd consider cutting Drake Haven and Stormtide Leviathan for some additional man lands or planeswalkers. Since you're playing casual, Standstill does really stupid things to your opponent in this kind of deck, since they end up getting smacked by man lands or out-valued by planeswalkers. But it punishes them for tapping out to cast cards by making Choke stronger. You might want to try this over your cycling cards.

December 26, 2020 4:22 p.m.

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