Pioneer Valki?

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Posted on May 1, 2021, 12:53 p.m. by zobster

If I have a Thassa, Deep-Dwelling and bounce Valki, God of Lies  Flip can I have it come back as Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor

zobster says... #2

I forgot to mention this, but does a card like Charming Prince also work.

May 1, 2021 12:55 p.m.

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May 1, 2021 1:03 p.m.

Mtg_Mega_Nerds says... #4

So I found this on the worlds best source, reddit. "The only ones I found that allow you to flicker your own lands are Teferi's Time Twist and Oath of Teferi . So for the low price of 2 mana and a card, you can now turn Akoum Teeth into Akoum Warrior  Flip, a red 4/5 creature with trample and a +1/+1 counter from Teferi's Time Twist." So yes, Thassa, Deep-Dwelling could flicker Valki, God of Lies  Flip into the other side. You would also be able to choose an option with Charming Prince .

May 1, 2021 3:15 p.m.

SpammyV says... #5

Unfortunately this does not work. The card's default face is Valki, God of Lies  Flip, which is what it is in all zones that aren't the battlefield, and its default if it is placed onto the battlefield without being cast. The reason that Emergent Ultimatum , Bring to Light , and formerly Cascade allowed you to cheat in Tibalt was that these cards allowed you to cast it without paying its mana cost. Flickering the card returns it to the front face and cheating it into play with an effect like Collected Company will only put the Valki side in.

The reason the Akoum Warrior  Flip example works is that the creature is the front, default face and the land is the back face.

May 1, 2021 4:12 p.m.

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