EDH- HAPATRA - Your opinions
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Posted on July 10, 2020, 8:26 p.m. by johnwayne1488
Hey everybody! Here's my Hapatra EDH build! It's an aristocrat, pod, creature deck with a few combo! It's meant to be played with a 4 people pod and it's missing some expensive piece but i'm looking to refine it! You can read the description on the decklist! Thanks in advance, looking forward to discuss this awesome lady!
spoonieluv1023 says... #4
Flourishing Defenses is another token generator for a -1/-1 counter deck.
July 11, 2020 5:38 p.m.
johnwayne1488 says... #5
I used to run it but found it was expensive and slow, rarely helped me out so i cut it!
July 13, 2020 2:48 p.m.
i am very late to the party here. Walking Ballista. With Ivy Lane, Hapatra, and Devoted Druid you go infinate with mana. So may as well have a dump spell. I always suggest Torment of Hailfire.
The biggest thing i can suggest tho is Bitter Ordeal. This card is very hard to stop as it has gravestorm and is the only card that has the ability. with hapatra, 2 snakes, and blowfly infecstation out. you cast this thing with lets say 1000 death triggers, you exile everyone's library and say go. due to the fact that gravestorm is an ability and it triggers for each death, they will need to be able to stifle each trigger. so only something like whirlwind denial can stop it. i suppose flusterstorm stops it as well. since you are casting each copy of the spell.
February 4, 2022 1:51 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #7
First line you mention is cool, I never thought about the fact that Ivy Lane Denizen, Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, and Devoted Druid are infinite mana. I am going to have to keep that in mind for when I am playing my deck.
Unfortunately your second paragraph has a couple of inaccuracies regarding Bitter Ordeal. Gravestorm triggers a single time (When you cast this spell) and makes copies equal to the number of permanents that have been put into the graveyard this turn (copy it for each permanent put into a graveyard this turn). Copies of spells are not cast, they are simply created on the stack. Copies of cards can be created in other zones and then cast. The easy way to tell when a copy will count as being cast is that the ability creating the copy will specifically say "cast".
February 4, 2022 12:56 p.m.
fair enough, you got me on tech way of wording. but the way it works is still the same. you stifle the gravestorm trigger itself and the copies are never made. whirlwind denial hard counters it as well.
February 5, 2022 12:32 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #9
It was not my intent to "get you", much less on a technicality. I was merely pointing out that a single Stifle would work and Flusterstorm wouldn't. Whirlwind Denial (after the Gravestorm ability resolves) would also effectively hard counter the line of play as you mentioned. It is a really cool interaction for a rarely used card, I just wanted fellow Hapatra players to be aware of what works and what doesn't when an opponent tries to stop it.
February 5, 2022 3:46 p.m.
PookandPie says... #10
He didn't catch you in a technicality of your wording, he was just pointing out that there's no reason why Bitter Ordeal would only have as many copies on the stack that a Flusterstorm could counter.
Example: Phyrexian Altar + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Rendclaw Trow, sac the Trow 300,000 times, return with alternating persist and undying, then cast Bitter Ordeal. There will be 300,001 of Bitter Ordeal on the stack.
If an opponent casts Flusterstorm on this turn, they will get 2 copies of Flusterstorm. That won't shut down Bitter Ordeal, there will still be 299,999 copies of Bitter Ordeal on the stack.
It's not a technicality, it's that statement being fundamentally inaccurate and correcting it so the OP knows he doesn't really have to worry about Flusterstorm with Bitter Ordeal, which is actually a great suggestion.
February 5, 2022 4:02 p.m.
johnwayne1488 says... #11
Thanks for the suggestions for Walking Ballista and the discussion on Bitter Ordeal, i will be updating the deck soon (currently moving out) but I do like Bitter Ordeal has i'm sometimes a bit salty losing to Cyclonic Rift and such cards hehehe!
Gidgetimer says... #2
Your link is broken.
Hapatra's Poison Ivy
July 10, 2020 9:41 p.m.