How to combo Lyzolda?
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on March 31, 2021, 7:56 p.m. by Snap157
I've always wanted to build a deck around Lyzolda, the Blood Witch , however she's a bit underpowered for my playgroup. Does anyone know of a game winning combo with her that I could build a deck around?
Mtg_Mega_Nerds says... #3
Or you can just use the infinite black mana to sacrifice the Reassembling Skeleton to Lyzolda Blood Witch infinite times. That seems easier.
March 31, 2021 8:44 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #4
That is how they are drawing the deck. Lyzolda, the Blood Witch doesn't do damage unless the creature was red.
March 31, 2021 8:57 p.m.
RNR_Gaming says... #6
I mean you could do the same thing with infinite red using Squee, the Immortal but itd be damage instead of card draw - but there are lots of things to do with infinite mana.
March 31, 2021 9:39 p.m.
Nim Deathmantle + Ashnod's Altar + Priest of Gix / Priest of Urabrask is one combo that utilizes the commander to translate to a win.
Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar + Plague Belcher is one combo that does not require the commander to translate to a win.
Neither should be particularly pricey (though Phyrexian Alter is not really a card I would consider "budget") and both are competitively capable set ups.
Black always has access to the Opposition Agent + Maralen of the Mornsong combo as well.
March 31, 2021 10:09 p.m.
griffstick says... #8
Maralen of the Mornsong also combos with Stranglehold
You can make infinite red and black mana with Worldgorger Dragon and Animate Dead
March 31, 2021 10:29 p.m. Edited.
Especially now with all the "punish when you sacrifice" creatures and cards that have appeared in recent sets. Combine her with creatures like Murderous Redcap and the damage output along with the card advantage can be very powerful.
April 1, 2021 11:49 a.m.
FormOverFunction says... #10
Or, you could do what I’ve been doing and hope that Strix contains some more red creatures that qualify as spooky witches, with the hope for a red/black coven EDH deck. ;p
April 1, 2021 1:15 p.m.
Going a little off topic:
I don't understand why they still do not have a creature type for witch. They can show up on cards as shamans, wizards, clerics, spellshapers and even warlocks of all things while still being called a witch.
This makes very little sense when since even in the 11th-12th century the word warlock was commonly associated with gender so that witches generally referred to women and their male counterparts were called warlocks. The word witch does not normally carry a gender association but warlock does. So naming a card with Witch in it's name then calling it a warlock as a creature type seems counter-intuitive.
For example: Chittering Witch appears as an elderly female in the art but has the warlock creature type.
Or they could at least just call them all wizards or shamans or something so they shared a type at least instead of them having so many different types. Complicates going tribal with them.
April 1, 2021 3:20 p.m.
Mtg_Mega_Nerds says... #12
On a lesser matter, there is no Lich subtype either.
April 1, 2021 3:30 p.m.
Them too. It's a little different for Liches because they almost all are universally called Zombie Wizard. Whereas witches are all over the place. If they called all witches Human Wizard or Human Shaman I would be okay with that because then it would make witch tribal more playable.
April 1, 2021 3:46 p.m.
jaymc1130 would you mind elaborating on how the Nim Deathmantle + Ashnod's Altar + Priest of Gix / Priest of Urabrask uses lyzolda to win?
April 2, 2021 9:10 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #17
The combo he described generates the infinite red or black mana that RNR was suggesting you generate in earlier comments. You also do not need the mentioned creatures from the earlier comments since Nim Deathmantle gives any creature recursion if you have enough mana.
The way the infinite mana is cr rate is that you sacrifice one of the priests to Ashnod's Altar generating . Nim Deathmantle triggers allowing you to return the creature for . When the creature is returned to the battlefield it generates or . You can now sac and return a creature for 4 mana and create 5 mana. Netting infinite mana.
April 2, 2021 11:06 a.m.
griffstick says... #18
Notably Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + any creature that makes 2 creatures when it enters is infinite mana. Once you've made infinite mana you can make infinite tokens. Then use your infinite mana to sacrifice them to your cmdr to infinitely deal damage to your opponents GG suffle up
April 2, 2021 2:47 p.m.
griffstick says... #19
I found 15 creatures that fit this criteria that are legal in cmdr.
April 2, 2021 2:54 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #20
Again, the tokens or creature must be red to do damage. This won't do anything with the commander with colorless creatures and tokens and will draw your deck with black creatures and tokens.
April 2, 2021 2:58 p.m.
griffstick says... #21
6 red creatures. But if you use this loop on a black creature you can draw the red creature you'll need anyway
RNR_Gaming says... #2
-Generate infinite black mana
-repeatedly sac and get back something like Reassembling Skeleton
-draw deck and Exsanguinate
March 31, 2021 8:32 p.m.