Ghostly Flame and Thran Lens

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Posted on Sept. 8, 2021, 9:34 p.m. by Necrosis24

I am working on a Rakdos morph deck and have come across Thran Lens and Ghostly Flame.

Thran Lens seems to have more obvious applications such as:

Ghostly Flame on the other hand I can't think of any useful applications as it doesn't circumvent targeting a creature with "protection from red/black". Even if it did that would be a niche ability not prevalent in my meta.

So I was curious if there were any cards/abilities that benefit from Thran Lens and Ghostly Flame beyond the ones I mentioned.

TypicalTimmy says... #2

Lens shuts off All Is Dust and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon. So kind of the opposite of what you're asking, but important to know nonetheless.

September 8, 2021 9:54 p.m. Edited.

RambIe says... #3

Ghostly Flame Blasphemous Act Sword of Sinew and Steel
G-Flame: Becouse, You don't have to target to get rid of a problem

September 9, 2021 7:13 a.m.

The ice age... well... age, was a time of circles of protection (most often Circle of Protection: Red and Circle of Protection: Black). This GF would help the dirty dirty awful red/black direct damage player circumvent the relevant CoP. The lens is from a set I wasn’t involved in, but I think that was an artifact-heavy set that probably had benefits set aside for colorless things. The lens would have been useful to the people who still wanted to play regular non-artifact stuff in whatever they called standard back then.

September 9, 2021 8:45 a.m.

So it basically negates Protection for damage spells with no target and Protection from damage(?)

September 9, 2021 8:53 a.m.

RambIe says... #6

Protection (X): Means can not be targeted by (X), can not be blocked by (X), Can not take damage from (X)
as FormOverFunction this used to be a real problem back when cops (Circle Of Protection) were popular
in today's games pro colors are less common but are still seen in voltron & white decks

September 9, 2021 9:38 a.m.

I should have been a little more clear: as Ramble is pointing out, it’s mainly aimed at the player with a side benefit against creatures.

September 9, 2021 11:04 a.m.

RambIe says... #8

Other Note: Rakdos morph, I Love It!!!
Rakdos, Lord of Riots + Experimental Frenzy could play like Animar, Soul of Elements except you get access to cards like Gift of Doom, Grim Haruspex, Soul Collector
digging deep with Necropotence then casting Final Fortune could be game ending
let me know how this deck goes
p.s. nether of these cards would benefit you lens only effects permanents which means only cards already on the field, Mycosynth Lattice & Chromatic Orrery would be better options

September 9, 2021 11:30 a.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #9

I'm pretty busy, but here is a link for Eldrazi that care about colorless creatures

There is also Gruesome Slaughter, Swarm Surge, Tomb of the Spirit Dragon and Hedron Blade.

Honestly, with the exception of MAYBE Tomb and probably more so Slaughter, there's not enough synergy to waste slots in any deck for any format.

September 9, 2021 11:31 a.m. Edited.

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