Casual combo with Contempt

Commander (EDH) forum

Posted on Aug. 23, 2016, 7:03 a.m. by kengiczar

Well Contempt returns a creature to it's owners hand, along with itself, whenever the enchanted creature attacks.

This go me thinking there are creatures that say "whenever this card attacks for the first time each turn....". Notably we have Aurelia, the Warleader and also Godo and Scourge of the Throne. The reason we can use cards that say "this card attacks for the first time each turn" is that every time we replay those cards they don't count as the same card as far as the rules are concerned.

So if you have an Aurelia out and put Contempt on it you can pick them up and attack again. That's pretty lame since it's so expensive right?

What if I told you that you could crush all of your friends with Contempt + Aurelia + Bear Umbra.... just Umbra on another creature that will survive combat and you win!

You're not impressed? I'm not either. But for a card that than came out in 98 it's amusing that Contempt continues to update itself every few years.

Also you can play this combo in the new 4 color non mana symbol b deck. Also would work in Animar if you use the Scourge but then it stops working if you are on the Throne. So ... use the angel.

MAJOR UPDATE!: LeaPlath pointed out to me that you would need flash for the combo since it puts a combat phase directly after the previous one. I kind of knew this in my head when I was building the combo but forgot to mention it. It's always magical christmas land in my brain with a T0 Leyline of Anticipation. > _ <

Dylan says... #2

Im confused what the point of this thread is? This combo seems to be expensive and hard to pull off

August 23, 2016 7:11 a.m. Edited.

kengiczar says... #3

The point is it's a thing you can do. Some people (usually not so much myself) like the "squee" feeling you get when you pull of something that's really mana intensive or clunky but cool as hell when it happens.

August 23, 2016 7:16 a.m.

MollyMab says... #4

Be quiet, Quiet, it is EDH. EDH stands for Expensive Dumb and something beginning with H that means combo.

However, and correct me if I am wrong, the issue with this combo is you can't do it without flash. As it creates an additional combat phase after the combat phase, not another main phase like Aggravated Assault or similar cards grant.

August 23, 2016 7:33 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #5

It's just easier, and less colors, to use Felhide Spiritbinder and let the Aurelias nuke themselves one at a time with the legend rule.

Also, Bear Umbra can just be replaced with Sword of Feast and Famine and make Felhide carry it.

Now we don't need U or G and we can make Aurelia our commander, reducing cards we have to tutor for.

August 23, 2016 8:27 a.m.

griffstick says... #6

Extra combats are fun and is an aspect most people don't take in prospective when building a deck. The power level of extra combats is substantially greater the more you can take and this combo just proves it's versatility making it a more approachable tactic to take when building a deck.

August 23, 2016 8:40 a.m.

kengiczar says... #7

@ LeaPlath - Woah good catch! That means the combo would require Vedalken Orrery or Leyline of Anticipation.

@ Ohthenoises - That is much easier but I think having the other colors is just so much nicer. That's still a great suggestion though as I know some people prefer playing 2 color and it does cut down on the cards. It's just that the main thing about the combo was Contempt. I mean you could replace Aurelia with Godo and Sword of Feast and Famine and that's even more efficient than Aurelia as far as mana screw goes.

August 23, 2016 8:45 a.m. Edited.

Shane.Allen says... #8

you can do the exact same combo 100 times faster and cheaper with many other cards. Aurelia, the Warleader + Flamerush Rider there infinite combat phases done cheaply faster and easier.

August 23, 2016 8:54 a.m.

MollyMab says... #9

Shane.Allen erm...no...Check gatherer, hun and you will see that doesn't work.

August 23, 2016 9:13 a.m.

Shane.Allen says... #10

LeaPlath Well thank you, I was thinking you could stack the triggers, I just read up so now it makes sense. There are however many other ones that you can go infinite combat phases with that are a lot easier and more effective than this.

August 23, 2016 9:23 a.m.

MollyMab says... #11

There are times I will call combos slow, bad and not worth pulling off. But never in EDH. Shoot for the stars in EDH and you will get a fun story out of it.

Like the time I managed to strip my friends Zegana UG Clone deck of all its creatures with Bribery and Infinite Mana.

August 23, 2016 9:31 a.m.

Shane.Allen says... #12

Ok, now that one was funny, even I would have laughed at that one :)

August 23, 2016 11:04 a.m.

If no one's mentioned them, Vedalken Orrery & Alchemist's Refuge are flash givers. Sword of Feast and Famine can swap for Umbra.

August 23, 2016 12:19 p.m.

Dylan says... #14

lol @ "Be quiet, Quiet, it is EDH. EDH stands for Expensive Dumb and something beginning with H that means combo."

August 23, 2016 7:43 p.m.

iBleedPunk says... #15

Why not run Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine ?

Seems to janky for me. Yes EDH is the format of infinite possibilities but when your meta is as cutthroat as mine can be this cutesy stuff just never works

August 23, 2016 9:43 p.m.

Shane.Allen says... #16

I say use whatever combo you have to win the game, that's what its about. If that means going infinite and milling, go for it. If that means Maelstrom into land destruction all the better for you. Whatever it takes to win should be your strategy from the minute you sit down at the table. :)

August 23, 2016 11:05 p.m.

Or you could possibly use Medomai the Ageless with a haste enabler on board

August 25, 2016 12:23 a.m.

chirz2792 says... #18

@UpperDeckerTaco: That doesn't work. Medomai can't attack during the extra turns.

August 25, 2016 12:34 a.m.

Ah I was thinking since it was a "new object" it could. I guess it is kind of restrictive.

August 25, 2016 12:49 a.m.

kengiczar says... #20

@ UpperDeckerTaco - chirz2792

The original combo is extra combat phases so there's nothing to stop you from attacking with Medomai 8 times in the initial turn and having 8 extra turns lined up. Well nothing except your opponent's blockers and limited life total.

August 25, 2016 2:57 a.m.

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