Can we get separate forums for edh and Cedh

Commander (EDH) forum

Posted on Aug. 5, 2021, 8:28 a.m. by shadow63

Title says it all. It would save users of this site time when going through the forums. Maybe do a community poll

Scytec says... #2

I'll be honest, I'm conflicted. On the one hand, it would make searching for and asking questions more convenient, it would also help search out decks of the type you're actually looking for. On the other hand, that is tantamount to admitting they are two different formats and they really aren' i can see the arguements for either direction. I suppose ultimately i would argue convenience trumps tradition. So i suppose i vote yes.

August 5, 2021 1:27 p.m.

I’m all for it, it would save time and allow easier access to decks/deck help for both and would prevent the two being muddled.

August 5, 2021 1:32 p.m.

Ziabo says... #4

The only issue I have with the separation is: what is the difference between High power vs cEDH and also Casual vs High power decks? You would have to implement a better definition that can dictate the variations of those two formats. I do believe there is a gap between cEDH and Casual EDH but you have to find a way to define said gap.

August 5, 2021 6:21 p.m.

shadow63 says... #5

Ziabo i don't think anyone would be upset if someone incorrectly put a Cedh deck list in the normal edh forum or the opposite. But the Cedh crowd seem to be proudly Cedh and would probably like their own space and i would like to know when i click on a forum post that its for normal edh

August 5, 2021 7:23 p.m.

enpc says... #6

While I can see merit in having a separate cEDH section of the forums, my biggest concern is that it would drive an even bigger wedge between the communities and promote even more of an "us and them" attitude.

I'm also concerned that we will see an increase of "piss off to the cEDH forum" anytime somebody posts a deck in the commander form that a user deems "too powerful" and that we will see the opposite effect with some cEDH players ripping into decks for not being competitive enough. While the T/O community is in general pretty good, MtG players have a name for being pretty toxic and combining that with text only communications, sometimes things can be interpreted the wrong way. While I'm not a fan of coddling people, I also don't want people's perceived attitudes to drive other users away from the site.

In addition, I think that for newer players having two forums can get confusing (especially since T/O has the competitive meter which just muddies the waters even more).

Last major point for keeping it as is is that having a range of different decks (both competitive and not) helps provide a good wealth of knowledge, especially for players looking to improve their deckbuilding/piloting. While yes, a player is free to browse both forums, I think that having them all together will help players be less insular in browsing the forums. Especially if you're used to just being in one forum and have to make a dedicated effort to go over to the other one.

Just my two cents.

August 5, 2021 7:56 p.m.

NinjaBunny01 says... #7

I agree with enpc. I think a cEDH tag and the ability to omit it from searches seems more reasonable instead of splitting the communities.

August 5, 2021 8:10 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #8

I am in favor of different forums. While a divide would grow, we must recognize there are players who prefer cEDH over EDH. We must also recognize that Commander is primarily a social format, and the spirit of Commander was budget non-competitive decks.

The vast majority of players build decks cobbled together with pieces lying around and will buy select key pieces from time to time to slowly improve.

Having a place where budget, new and non-competitive players can discuss the game without having cEDH players trying to "help" by offering suggestions that are unreasonable, I feel, is a good way to promote the communal embrace of the game as well as a place to speak and discuss without being told to "get good" and have your builds insulted.

Meanwhile, a cEDH forum will work wonders to hone new builds and watch as the meta shifts and grows.

The divide is there and it's not going away. So I think it is in the communities best interest to acknowledge and accept this, and then work with it rather than against it.

August 6, 2021 12:23 a.m.

DuTogira says... #9

You can have a separate cEDH forum the second they make a separate Tiny Leaders forum.

August 6, 2021 1:27 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #10

RambIe, your reply is 100% exactly why I hold the opinion that I do in here, albeit a little less aggressively. But I sympathize with the emotion. It can be very frustrating, especially dealing with it on a daily basis if someone happens to, say, run an LGS or a Reddit thread or something.

August 6, 2021 5:39 p.m. Edited.

Scytec says... #11

@DuTogira - They had a Tiny Leaders hub like 5 years ago when it started if im not mistaken...but then the format died and never got any usage. Haha. Is it coming back??

August 6, 2021 8:26 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #12

Oathbreaker T_T

Do Emojis work yet

August 6, 2021 9:12 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #13

I sent a crying face emoji with the second line. Dang lol

August 6, 2021 9:37 p.m.

Rzepkanut says... #14

By this logic does that mean that there should be more than one category for other formats? Like a optimized and focused version of standard and a casual version?

August 7, 2021 10:06 a.m.

DuTogira says... #15

Scytec no it’s not. I was more making the point that both cEDH and Tiny Leaders are sub genres of EDH, and officially supporting forums for any sub-genres of any format becomes a very slippery slope for the tapped out admins

August 7, 2021 10:58 a.m.

Scytec says... #16

Tiny Leaders may have stolen inspiration from commander, but it was not the same format. Also, it never really took off. cEDH is regular edh just at an elevated level, also, it is considerably more popular than Tiny Leaders. I would argue if a large number of individuals would utilize a new hub, it wouldn't be wasteful to create one. At the very least it would help someone like me who is trying to learn the nuances of competetive play by distinguishing quickly if any given list is designed to be played at the highest level or just a very tuned list. All that being said, cEDH IS EDH, so not driving a wedge between the two even further by creating a seperate hub is understandable.

August 7, 2021 11:13 a.m.

shadow63 says... #17

So it seems we've gotten more yays than nays

August 8, 2021 12:40 p.m.

NinjaBunny01 says... #18

The few responses this has gotten is to small to determine yes or no

August 8, 2021 2:25 p.m.

shadow63 says... #19

Still not a bad start

August 8, 2021 4:16 p.m.

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