The Sunforger-Dilemma

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Posted on Feb. 2, 2019, 9:27 a.m. by NetholonTheArchmage

ALL PROBLEMS SOLVED! Zedruu thanks everyone who's been so kind helping her in her dilemma. May the divines bless you all!

Hello everyone,

I need some help with my Zedruu the Greathearted Deck: There are two cards I really want to have in the deck. The problem is that I really have no idea what to put out, as every card is important and has its purpose...

The cards I want to put in are:

1.) Steelshaper's Gift (ALLREADY FOUND ITS WAY IN) as another way to tutor up Sunforger or probably Darksteel Plate as soon as it is in the deck...

2.) Obviously Darksteel Plate (ALLREADY FOUND ITS WAY IN) as another way to protect my beloved goat from bordwipes, etc...

If you are the helpfull kind of person and have some time left, please consider taking a look at the decklist: Zedruu, Enlightened Master , and tell me your opinions on what to put out. Always remember: Zedruu will always share her appreciation ;)

triproberts12 says... #2

I think Divine Presence and Trading Post are pretty mediocre, personally.

February 2, 2019 3:42 p.m.

@ triproberts12 , thank you for your suggestions!

Ironically you just mentioned two of the cards that are among the most profitable in the deck in my opinion :D Divine Presence is probably my favourite pillow-fort-card ever.. Somehow it seems to shut down half of the table, not being able to deal any damage as everyone has a reliable blocker on their board. It is a mytery but strangely enough nobody manages to remove that thing... Might be cursed or something... In short: This card does huge work in my meta so I really want to keep it.

The Trading Post is one of the most versatile cards I know, offering you (on theme-) blockers (you may also gift them away for extravalue) , carddraw if you need it or, and that's the most important effect: artifact-recursion from your graveyard. Last but not least it is an important component of my Mindslaver -lockdown wincon.

Still I thank you a lot for your time and your angagement! :)

February 3, 2019 5:01 a.m.

enpc says... #4

As the deck stands right now, I don't actually think it makes enough use of Sunforger to warrant spending more slots to make it more reliable.

On top of that, I don't think that Sunforger adds enough value to the deck to run it. If you were using stuff like Counterflux , Render Silent , Izzet Charm , etc. to take more advantage of it, it would add enough value, but given the style of the deck and the fact that it's not a beatdown deck, I wouldn't bother with the support for it.

February 3, 2019 7:26 a.m.

arthursteel says... #5

a friend of mine did a zedruu full focused on permanents, but some things in my opinion is good for zedruu are Confusion in the Ranks , Intruder Alarm , Hive Mind , Enduring Ideal , and Grip of Chaos reasons: Confusion in the Ranks is a free exchange and help gain more life and draw Grip of Chaos you still can exchange whenever you want and your "friends" need choo at randon because of Confusion in the Ranks Intruder Alarm a control to force people put creatures on board, and at same time give blockers for other people avoiding some attacks Hive Mind can help avoid counterspells and similars, and that combo with Enduring Ideal where help you to find new things to troll you opponents and no one else cast spells

February 3, 2019 9:28 a.m.

@ enpc Booth Render Silent and Counterflux have been in the deck since its first version. Yet I came to the conclusion that I neither want, nor need counterspells in my deck. I haven't playtested it thus far, so I'll definetely keep them on the maybe-list if it shouldn't work out too well...

For the gameplay-perspective: The idea is to have Sunforger in the game as early as possible. If not at hand allready, use it to play Tithe and search for your Mistveil Plains . As you might allready be aware of, this allows you to put the spells just cast with sunforger back into your library. It isn't the idea to have as many sunforger-options as possible, nor to build the entire deck around it. The Hammer shall simply act as a tool for needed answers. The sunforger allows us to have all the answers we need, id this bordwipe protection due to Boros Charm or creature removal due to Swords to Plowshares . We can even tutor up Tithe if we would be missing a land-drop otherwise, or repeatedly cast Enlightened Tutor to develop our board. Even with this small selection of targets the sunforger has proved itself to be a very usefull tool in the deck. :)

@ arthursteel This are all great suggestions, some of which I allready had in the decklist :) The great thing about Zedruu the Greathearted as a commander is that she is so nonlinear and versatile. You can play her in many directions: While your friend seemed to be going for a chaos-style deck, I'm trying to build my deck the political way.

February 4, 2019 10:54 a.m.

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