Should i go Grixis or Jund Gold/Tresure?
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Posted on Feb. 24, 2019, 1:46 p.m. by Stardragon
Im trying to make a deck based around gold and treasure tokens. I wanted gold since Gild and King Macar, the Gold-Cursed came out, unfortunately wizards drop gold in favor of treasure instead so I'm combining them to make what i think would be a "Greed" themed deck. I've been debating between Grixis or Jund as blue would help make more treasure but green would help make more tokens in general with access to Parallel Lives , Doubling Season and Primal Vigor
triproberts12 says... #3
You definitely want blue so that, in addition to Revel in Riches , you also get Mechanized Production .
February 24, 2019 4:43 p.m.
Stardragon says... #4
Mj3913 Thank you for you input I do appreciate your ideas. I thought about making it four or even 5 color but you need so much more land, dorks or mana stones than three color deck that they take more space than i want. While this statement his not true for every 4 or 5 color deck, i found it to the rule rather than the exception. But also because i just personally dont have fun with 4 and 5 color decks, however if i could find a mana base that would work with say 36-38 lands and and like 2-5 dorks/stones i would absolutely do four color.
February 24, 2019 9:44 p.m.
Stardragon says... #5
triproberts12 Thank you for you input I do appreciate you taking time to help me. Its true that having a second win con is nice and i was thinking on how needed I really more than just Revel in Riches and beating the opponent through life loss as that just doesn't fit the flavor of my deck.triproberts12 Thank you for you input I do appreciate you taking time to help me. Its true that having a second win con is nice and i was thinking on how needed I really more than just Revel in Riches and beating the opponent through life loss as that just doesn't fit the flavor of my deck. I was also thinking of adding Hellkite Tyrant as a second win con (third) if i have Mechanized Production
February 24, 2019 9:51 p.m.
multimedia says... #6
Unfortunately, the best card that makes treasures is white, Smothering Tithe . This card alone in my opinion makes treasures a viable strategy in Commander.
Combine Tithe with Revel in Riches , both enchantments which white has more tutors to find them, cards to protect them and cards to reanimate or recur them. Teysa Karlov is a Commander to consider, she has synergy with Revel and Pitiless Plunderer giving you additional treasures when creatures die. White also has access to many board wipes which speeds up treasure production with Revel and Plunderer. Anointed Procession is a Doubling Season effect in white.
Another option is Esper with Zur the Enchanter as Commander. Zur can tutor for Tithe, Revel, Procession. Teysa and Plunder can be included in Zur. The last option to consider is Abzan with Ghave, Guru of Spores . Abzan gives you access to Tithe, Revel, Teysa and Doubling Season effects. Ghave is a sac outlet which has good interaction with Teysa, Revel and Plunder. Vraska, Relic Seeker is another good card that can make treasures that can be played in Abzan.
February 24, 2019 9:57 p.m.
Stardragon says... #7
multimedia thank you for your input. I did think of adding Smothering Tithe and Anointed Procession to the deck but i wasn't going to add white just for two cards however i forgot about Teysa Karlov . and also im not just making treasure tokens i am also making Gold tokens and while adding red for just Curse of Opulence wouldn't make much sense many pirates that make treasure token are also in red as well and with the black treasure making pirates and Revel in Riches i could keep Gild and King Macar, the Gold-Cursed . Now i know that mixing both gold and treasure tokens wouldn't be as effective as just a treasure deck, in which case I would of done Zur the Enchanter . But thats not what i want. So that why im stuck an either grixis or jund.
February 24, 2019 10:28 p.m.
triproberts12 says... #8
One thing you could do, if you don't want to flesh out a full 4-5 color manabase, is you could play Ramos, Dragon Engine as your commander. You can build the deck Grixis, and just splash for Smothering Tithe and Vraska, Relic Seeker . The nice thing about Treasure and Gold being your theme is you don't need to play any rocks or lands in white or green to splash. Ramos is even an artifact, in case you want to run an artifact theme with stuff like Contraband Kingpin , Daretti, Scrap Savant , Gonti's Aether Heart , etc.
February 25, 2019 1:23 a.m.
Stardragon says... #9
triproberts12 thats really good idea that i hadn't thought of to make fit the best treasure together and while it is heavier artifact due to the Gold and Treasure tokens it not a artifact deck here a look at it Greedy
February 25, 2019 1:58 a.m.
triproberts12 says... #10
No trouble! Looks like your link leads to a user profile, though. Sin of Greed is the deck, I believe, in case anyone else wants to take a look.
February 25, 2019 10:36 p.m.
Stardragon says... #11
Ok thxs my was called Greedy beause it was going to be called either Greedy Grixis or Greedy Jund before i made a 5 color deck i didn't relize that a someone's user name wasa greedy My bad
JANKYARD_DOG says... #2
What if you could have both?
Yidris, Maelstrom Weilder: there are some equipment that are treasure based so a mild voltron theme could be a thing, giving you an additional wincon via Cmdr dmg, while also cascading into your other treasure spells.
Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper or Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Kraum, Ludevic's Opus or Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist : Ikra offers some life gain, though looking through treasure related creatures a majority are even if not top heavy. Reyhan would require some +1 counter devotion I think. Both U/R partners offer card draw in a different way.
Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix or Thrasios, Triton Hero and Vial Smasher the Fierce : Considering there are ways to draw cards off of treasures it could be viable. Thrasios on the other hand is a mana sink that can ramp/net cards. Vial Smasher is just a bit of fun that give you the colors you need.
Silas Renn, Seeker Adept & Tana, the Bloodsower : Silas could be good with an artifact heavy deck. Tana I think serves only for colors... unless you can sacrifice the saps for treasures.
February 24, 2019 4:37 p.m.