Let's build around Unplayable Commanders; Mono white Infinite combo
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Posted on Nov. 5, 2016, 2:11 p.m. by joecool1299
Welcome back to Unplayable commanders. Freeing up space in our Asylum for all the Partner Combinations, you'll never use!
What makes an Unplayable commander?
I'm using EDHREC'S list of Unplayable commander's. They are commander's that have less then three decks on tapped out, you can find the list here.
List of EDHREC unplayed commanders
Casual
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How does this work?
I'll randomly select a commander. I'll build the rough skeleton. You send me suggestions for weird cards for it. And we'll cut it down and ship it. Let's put the minds of the internet to the test
Why would you build around (Insert bad commander) when you could play (Insert better commander in the same archetype or colors) instead, what's the point?
First off the object should not be to just build good stuff with X. If we're building Rohgahh of Kher Keep we aren't building R/B good stuff. We're building around Rohgahh of Kher Keep. Weird drawbacks and neat side effects and all.
Because if you limit yourself to just the best deck of their colors, you limit yourself to 30 decks in the entirety of the format (Mono color, guilds, shards ect), But the great thing about commander is that there are hundreds of ways to build around one commander. I can build Zedruu the Greathearted as a prison deck, a evil santa deck, a group hug deck, Heck I could build voltron Zedruu, Sky's the limit.
So instead of simply looking at the cards and seeing what they aren't, let's look and see what they bring to the table. No matter how bad it looks. No matter how weird it is.
Plus it'll be a lot of fun.
TLDR; What's the deck already
For Samurai, Part Twooooooooooooo!
Now this is normally the part where I say "Oh give me suggestions so I can add them and cut as I please because I Am King" But I have a special Idea for him.
You see when I started this Way way back in The far off time of Spetember The first commander I got was.... Mono White Samurai. So originally I was just gonna have it be for both Nagao, Bound by Honor and Kentaro, the Smiling Cat.
But NAY! No Inmate shall share their deck with another. So I came up with another idea and just sorta sat on it.
Well now it's time. Kentaro the smiling cat... Infinite combo.
So Blah blah blah. What the point?
Well, I have two specific questions for all for you.
One, I need Infinite combo's in white. From two cards to ten cards. It doesn't matter. Anything is worth it.
And Two I want someway to break Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho. This thing has to be broken. And I'm not exactly sure how.
Kentaro, The smiling troll!
Commander / EDH*
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As always any Suggestions for the deck, feedback, Liking and spreadage of the word is great appreciated!
Here's the previous decks if you wanna stroll the Asylum. Ranked for best to worst.
Gallowbraid: Because if you laugh you die
Yuan Shao, the Indecisive: Yuan Shao the menacer
Kodama of the Center Tree:Spetral Trees
Rashka the Slayer:Rashka, Color hater
Telim'Tor:Mr Toilet, King of the horsemen
Lu Su, Wu Advisor: Lu shu, Scooby doo
Ur-Drago:Ur Drago of the Ur dragon clan
Easiest way to break Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho is with Puresteel Paladin and a sac outlet. I'm not sure but I believe it checks subtype of creature while in the graveyard so Ashes of the Fallen would make any creature come back? Might be fun with like a Solemn Simulacrum
Other infinite combos I know of are:
Angelic Renewal and Sun Titan + sac
Obvious one Nim Deathmantle or Eldrazi Displacer and Ashnod's Altar with Springjack Shepherd or Knight-Captain of Eos etc.
Ancestral Memories and Blasting Station goes infinite with any 0 cost creature.
Emeria Shepherd and Solemn Simulacrum with a sac outlet may not be infinite, but it's a game winner.
That's all I can think of atm.
November 5, 2016 3:40 p.m.
Woops miss linked a card, Enduring Renewal and Blasting Station is what I meant. Enduring Renewal also goes infinite with a sac outlet and cards like Field of Souls or Proper Burial.
November 5, 2016 3:45 p.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #5
For that first one, I checked the rulings and it says:
12/1/2004
Oathkeepers second ability checks whether the cards creature type is Samurai, not whether the creature was a Samurai when it left the battlefield.
So it would work?
November 5, 2016 7:04 p.m.
As infinite as you want it to be, Well of Lost Dreams + Words of Worship .
November 5, 2016 8:05 p.m.
Now you just gotta search for the combo with cars like Stonehewer Giant, Stoneforge Mystic, Steelshaper's Gift and all the like!
November 5, 2016 8:06 p.m.
Promise of Bunrei + Sun Titan with a sac outlet is recursive, but only works once per turn.
November 5, 2016 8:13 p.m.
SupremeSnowSpork42 says... #11
Grinding Station + Ornithopter + Enduring Renewal= Infinite Mill
November 6, 2016 8:46 a.m.
Super easy way to break Oathkeeper is just:
It + Ashnod's Altar + Altar of the Brood
November 6, 2016 5:11 p.m.
joecool1299 says... #13
Wow I guess the trick to getting lots of answers is to exploit everyones love of infinite combo's. This is gonna be fun! Thanks for all the suggestions.
November 6, 2016 5:44 p.m.
In mono white you kind of have to love your combos, otherwise you kinda just sit there slowing the game down for no reason. I also forgot Gift of Immortality and Sun Titan + sac outlet.
I wish I could think of a use for the second ability of the general, where every samurai cost x. I think the best way to abuse it is infinite colorless mana with Well of Lost Dreams + Words of Worship , only thing that comes to mind really. I'd for sure suggest Akroma's Memorial for the haste/win.
November 6, 2016 8:24 p.m.
@phc I didn't know about either of these cards, thanks!
You can make infinite Angels/colorless mana with Midnight Guard by attaching Paradise Mantle to him and having both Luminarch Ascension and Ashnod's Altar out. Works with Sacred Mesa too. Granted 4 card combos aren't the greatest but all the cards included are good individually too.
November 7, 2016 12:56 a.m.
Since you're already running Blasting Station you could run Karmic Guide and Reveillark, they go infinite with it. It's not as cool as the other combos, but it works.
November 9, 2016 11:41 p.m.
joecool1299 says... #19
Drakorya: Great minds think alike!
Here's the list if you wanna make cuts. Or don't, I hate cutting cards. OBVIOUS LINK HERE!
November 10, 2016 12:04 a.m.
Thanks for the shout-out! This is a really cool project; I like where it's going. At the risk of sounding like I'm actually enjoying myself, can you please tag me when you start the next one?
November 12, 2016 7:44 p.m.
joecool1299 says... #21
legendofa Thanks for the support! I'll start linking the next discussion in the previous discussion. But I'm always in the Commander deck help forums.
RazortoothMtg says... #2
Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho + Kentaro, the Smiling Cat + Ashnod's Altar + Soul Warden
Infinite life. Bam.
Equip Oathkeeper to Kentaro, sac him to altar and oathkeeper brings him back. Use the 2 mana to re-equip. Infinite ETB effects.
November 5, 2016 2:26 p.m.