Budget Competitive Prossh
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Posted on Dec. 12, 2017, 5:23 p.m. by Spirit_Logan
I am trying to build a competitive Prossh deck and stay on a budget . Obviously I need to buy Food Chain, but what to do with the 99? I wanted to do a lot of extra combats and abuse cards like Frontline Devastator and Devouring Swarm.
bushido_man96 budget can be done on a card by card basis or a price for the whole deck. In cEDH the latter is the better to go off of since you can put in the necessary expensive pieces and making concessions in other spots. In Prossh the money cards are typically the tutors, lands, and food chain. Tutors and lands can be compromised for budget purposes but food chain can't.
As for suggestions Eternal Scourge will allow a second line with food chain. Also consider Purphoros and Impact Tremors for win cons.
December 12, 2017 10:46 p.m.
Combat and competitive edh don't normally go together. I have not played many games of competative EDH, but do understand that combo, control, and stax are generally better suited. With that said, I assume you are talking about a deck that can compete with other budget friendly decks. So lets say local game store competative.
I have had a full prossh combo deck, but not top tier competitive. My group did not like it so I changed it.
I went with a dragon theme. With Conspiracy and having cards that cares about dragon, it is still very powerful. As Dragon Tempest kills when prossh makes "dragon" tokens.
It still has the food chain combos, but it has less tutors and recursion for the main parts. But with a dragon theme, you can get multiple combats. Also things like Aggravated Assault work in themed decks.
Purphorous and impact tremors are still good in here also.
My deck is not budget, but you can look what it was before I changed the theme to dragons. here. I need to update the deck eventually.
December 13, 2017 12:06 a.m.
I'm with pskinn01 on Purphoros, God of the Forge and Impact Tremors. You can also sport cards like Berserk, Tainted Strike and Xenagos, God of Revels which let you one shot players with Prossh. A few token producing cards as well and you should be good.
Other than that, you can include all the good budget ramp, draw, tutoring and removal and you have your deck.
December 13, 2017 12:24 a.m.
miracleHat says... #6
My personal prossh deck, this is an outdated list is $330. If you remove the Grim Monolith, Cavern of Souls, and Sensei's Divining Top, Chrome Mox, Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Intent, and Chromatic Lantern you should be able to acquire the entire build for $200 (not counting cards that you already own). I just listed 7 cards that can be easily downgraded or just completely replaced.
General idea: get food chain, get a haste enabler, get a protection piece, combo off turn 4-5. This has outraced pods with teferi, breya, selvala, tymna flashhulk, and other tiered / calibrated decks.
December 13, 2017 2:24 a.m.
Paranoid1992 says... #7
Hey!
I tried myself to put together a budget foodchain list: Playing the cheap (cmc-wise expensive) tutors and a lot of ramp/elves to get it together.Still working on it, but you could have a look:
Ultra Budget Food Chain Prossh
Of course it won't go off in round 2 or 3 like the really competitive ones, but round 4-5 is quite possible.
December 13, 2017 2:53 a.m.
Spirit_Logan says... #8
@pskinn01 So you're saying that I shouldn't go for a deck that uses the combo to make creatures infinitely big and then attacks with those creatures?
@miracleHat and Paranoid1992 How often did your decks win?
@bushido_man96, redkhan, enpc, pskinn01, miracleHat, and Paranoid1992 Thanks for helping me!
December 13, 2017 6:54 a.m.
Unless they have trample, really big creatures are gonna to be chump blocked. Where if you make infinite attacks, having big creatures are not required, unless they get bigger on toughness (only one of those qualify). Also just note, food chain mana can only be used to cast creatures, so no pumping devastator with it.
When building an edh deck, i look for cards that are good on their own or fit the main theme. Or has synergy with most of the deck. Without seeing the whole deck, I would say the two creatures mentioned dont fit the requirements for me to include.
But Dragon Tempest gives your flyers haste (including commander), and when you combo with food chain, it gives you the game (one point at a time). So it fits in as a good card, and its budget.
December 13, 2017 7:27 a.m.
miracleHat says... #10
It depends on how much control is with me, and if I can slip under counter removal.
Like with all non blue combo decks, winning is all about timing: excluding times when you deck yourself. The deck currently has around 40% win in multiplayer.
December 13, 2017 11:35 a.m.
Spirit_Logan says... #11
@pskinn01 Oh. I didn't read Food Chain's rules text. Well, that's a theme of a deck out the window. :(
@miracleHat Two questions:
With the 40% wins, how many games is that?
Do you oftenly win by turn 4-5?
December 13, 2017 3:52 p.m.
So I thought up another suggestion if you want to win through combat. Anger in your graveyard will give your near infinite tokens haste and Beastmaster Ascension will give your 0/1s attack power.
December 13, 2017 4:29 p.m.
Spirit_Logan says... #13
@redkhan, miracleHat, pskinn01, Paranoid1992, enpc, and bushido_man96:
Here's the EDHREC Generated Prossh Deck. What cards do I take out to make it budget but keep it competitive, and what cards do I put in?
EDHREC Generated Prossh
Commander / EDH*
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@redkhan Thanks for the suggestions!
December 13, 2017 4:51 p.m.
Ok, so first thing I would recommend you do is wipe the list. If you're trying to build anything even somewhat competitive, EDHREC is not a good starting point.
December 13, 2017 4:55 p.m.
Spirit_Logan says... #15
@enpc Are there any better starting points? (Besides this website)
December 13, 2017 5:02 p.m.
miracleHat says... #16
@epnc said. Look at the following instead:
Not mine: Prossh Food Chain Combo
Not mine: Food Chain Prosh
Mine: My Budgetless Goldfish Combo Prossh List
Mine: My Budget Prossh Combo (IRL)
Reddit's Input: Reddit Is Informed Source I Guess?
Not Mine: Not-Solely Food Chain Combo Prossh
Lastly go to labmaniac discord / cedh subreddit (i'm sure it exists) and get help.
December 13, 2017 5:05 p.m.
Things Id need to know:
Budget - how much you willing to do. Its different for each person. For me a deck is budget, if i can trade for 95% or more of the deck. Some its a dollar amount per deck or per card.
How competitive? Just a local group that plays combos? Or a group that has refined their decks with the best cards they can afford?
As far as edh rec is concerned, its a good jumping point for normal edh groups, but for super competitive, it is very lacking. Like a high competitive prosh would run 3 ABUR duals, 3 shocks, and 9 fetches - so not budget in value, but I have all but the fetches in mine.
December 13, 2017 5:11 p.m.
So for now reserve 36 cards for land. That will leave you 63 slots. Add you win condition cards, then start adding a good handful for ramp, card advantage/tutors, as well as some removal. In that order. Then see how much you have of each and what you have free and we can work from there.
It sounds like a pain in the arse, but culling irrelevant cards is much worse than just building the foundation up properly to begin with.
December 13, 2017 5:14 p.m.
miracleHat says... #20
If you are going for competitive food chain prossh start at 32 lands and remove as needed. This allows for 68 spots (1 of which is prossh and another 1 is food chain).
December 13, 2017 5:19 p.m.
miracleHat: for a budget list, 36 is the better starting point. 32 lands only works if you have access to expensive (money wise) mana ramp. You're better off being flooded every once in a while than consistently starved early game.
December 13, 2017 5:35 p.m. Edited.
Personally I would still start at 36 and then do an assessment on reducing the number once the deck has been put together. It's much easier to replace lands than it is to cut functional cards.
December 13, 2017 7:04 p.m.
miracleHat says... #24
Prossh Food Chain has 3 functional cards: your general, Food Chain, and 1 win condition. It is quite easy to remove cards from the list.
December 13, 2017 7:29 p.m.
Spirit_Logan says... #25
@miracleHat and enpc I'll try 34, but if I find that I am mana starved, I'll go for 36 lands and if I'm mana flooded I'll run 32 lands. I think that would satisfy both of you.
December 13, 2017 7:31 p.m.
Sounds like a plan. Are you going to update the previous list you posted or make a new one?
bushido_man96 says... #2
I think a card like Food Chain kills the budget idea, unless that's the only card you plan on spending any money on. But hey, it's your deck.
Some budget cards that might fit with what you want to do with all those tokens would be Goblin Bombardment, Fecundity to draw cards from the sacrifices, Dictate of Erebos, Grave Pact, or the budget Butcher of Malakir for some removal.
Those are some starters, anyways.
December 12, 2017 10:25 p.m.