Best objectives for deck idea: RW(?) Enchantment Combo
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Posted on July 3, 2021, 3:10 p.m. by legendofa
I had another deck concept this morning: Use the cascade from Flamekin Herald to cast Resurgent Belief for a big pile of enchantments. I'm looking for some direction to go forward with this idea. Budget isn't a serious concern, but it should match the competitiveness. I don't want to put a $300 card in a casual jank deck. Similarly, I tend to play toward the lower end of the competitive EDH scale. I like to win, but I like to mess with the game and try new things just as much. Uniqueness is more important than victory, as long as victory is possible.
Right now, I see two ways to design this thing. First is straight enchantment combo, something like Havoc Festival + Wound Reflection that just wins the game. Second is Voltron, using something like Eldrazi Conscription and Rage Reflection .
I'm also not sure where to go with the commander. I'm looking hard at a partner set. Sets that support the Voltron line are Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar + something , or Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder + pretty much anything at MV 2. Akiri, Line-Slinger is on color and MV 2 for the cascade, but the ability doesn't offer much. So basically, I need a partner set that includes:
- a very cheap (MV 2) option
- + color identity
- something that reasonably interacts with enchantments or Voltron
The commander consideration is also related to how the enchantments are getting into the graveyard in the first place. There aren't any huge, game winning enchantments with cycling. Wheels give away free cards in this setup. Self-mill might be the way to go.
Also, if anyone has any specific card suggestions to help the core concept, please throw them in, too. This deck is more or less a Living End variant for enchantments in EDH.
A_box_of_waffles Would alone be able to carry this deck?
I_Want_To_PlayAllTheDecks Akiri does have all the qualifications I'm looking for, but who would be the best partner for her?
July 3, 2021 11:47 p.m.
I think the best partner for this really depends on when your gameplan ends up being.
I can see green as a good option for a 3rd color, for traditional enchantress reasons, and because green has a some decent options for filling the graveyard ( Satyr Wayfinder or Golgari Grave-Troll to name a couple), as well as a few options for tucking cards from your graveyard back into your library.
Blue is also a good option for a 3rd color and can also do everything you need to make your core gameplan work.
Of course, Thrasios, Triton Hero covers both of these colors.
Adding black opens up some good options, but, with the stated plan being mass enchantment recursion, I think I'd rather just run Ghen, Arcanum Weaver unless you wanted to use Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper .
Anyways, I'd pick your wincon first, then pick the partners that work best for it.
July 4, 2021 5:26 a.m.
SynergyBuild says... #6
Idk man, cascade into a suspend Replenish seems worse than just casting Replenish ? I mean if it's budgetless at least.
July 4, 2021 8:47 a.m.
golgarigirl says... #7
I would definitely advocate black in the deck. With all the Unmarked Grave - style effects to actually craft a graveyard. Ghen, Arcanum Weaver is the logical choice with that in mind. That said, I think you're stretching a bit much to cascade into the Resurgent Belief, unless your meta will take down an well-defended (enchantment decks tend to be one of the more tank-y deck builds) deck in 2 rounds every time they see the card being suspended.
July 4, 2021 1:39 p.m.
SynergyBuild I completely deny that I was trying to come up with a new idea and forgot Replenish existed. Nope. Didn't happen.
Sounds like is the way to go for maximum efficiency. Ghen, Arcanum Weaver + Replenish does sound easier. But Thrasios, Triton Hero has its own merits.
I'm going to design and playtest a Ghen version and a Thrasios + Bruse Tarl version and see which I like better.
July 4, 2021 2:11 p.m.
A little late, but I came across this thread because I had a similar idea - except that mine started with a commander in mind, and the enchantment reanimate idea came second. The commander in question is Plargg, Dean of Chaos. His rummaging ability helps you get enchantments in the yard and dig for whatever you need, and his second ability is a sort of cascade in itself! Obviously there are some pretty significant deck building limitations that come with Plargg, but I'm excited to try him out.
August 15, 2021 2:19 a.m.
Symians That's an interesting idea. Let us know how it works out.
A_box_of_waffles says... #2
Ardenn, Intrepid Archeologist and kedis for voltron?
July 3, 2021 4:30 p.m.