Help Wanted for Admiral Beckett Brass FLAVOFUL Pirate Tribal. (Deck Help)
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Posted on Oct. 7, 2019, 2:10 p.m. by BMHKain
Brass' Codex of Complex Outerversal Type Lavishing
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(Sometimes, even a Lead of their Ship needs some backup; even if the First Mate is a complete Dumbass...)
NOTICE BEFORE QUESTION: Throughout development of this deck, a lot of you actually wanted Admiral Becket Brass as a Tribal Deck to be more true to actual Pirates, especially flavor in various ways (Is opposed to Tribe Concept in general.), & having good stuff backing up this claim. For this one, FLAVOR in addition to being viable is the Ultimate Fact. Because that's what so many would've wanted.
Q1: This deck is >100 Cards, so this should be a no brainer; what to cut, matey?
Q2: Cards here like Angrath's Marauders , & Timestream Navigator are Pirates w/ more well gimmicked abilities. Angrath's Marauders is like a one-sided Furnace of Rath , But Timestream Navigator is great for a 2-Card Infinite Turns Combo. Flavor-wise, what second piece would be good in a deck w/ her? If she is to stay?
Q3: Is Angrath, Minotaur Pirate truly needed? Maybe I just might not need him; I'd like the opinions of others though...
Q4 FINAL: By this point, to stay true to Pirate Flavor, what other cards to replace for the 100 Card Target; while having quite some Deceit Elements, Earned Trust Breaking for Yourself, Theft, basically anything Grixis can do for personality traits? This is so I can ensure a true to life deck that can be viable in-game.
Later.
I would recommend against Piracy --its effectiveness has diminished pretty significantly with mana burn being removed from the game. In practice, what's going to happen is your opponents will activate all their lands, then still have mana to interact with you on that main phase. You can circumvent this by playing Piracy in your first main, then moving to second main before casting any further spells--leaving your opponents unable to respond.
But, there's a problem. If any players go after you in a pod, no one else will be able to interact with them. In practice, if you are player 2, that means players 3 and 4 are safe to combo off and win the game, knowing no one can stop them.
October 15, 2019 5:20 p.m.
@Caerwyn: Alright. It got chopped. I'd mention anything else, but I guess the only thing I can say is that I currently have 10 cards left to cut. I dunno what to cut; nor should I decide Timestream Navigator 's fate; which depends on one of the following to use:
Right away, I'm cutting the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Splinter Twin choice from this as they are too OP, & less Flavorful.; but is this really a DEATH Trigger, is opposed to a Bottom-Deck Trigger that Navigator already has. I just want to know how this works.
That said, Timestream Navigator 's place would be decided in one of 2 options:
A: Kick her Overboard
B: Find out how this 2 Card Combo Works; & be thematic about it.
I think I said enough, but just in case, either Navigator gets chopped, or I find out how a Death Trigger can work for infinite Turns.
I'll zip it from there. I'd like other's thoughts about this. :/
October 15, 2019 6:34 p.m.
Back. Well, I'm still in a pickle for this situation:
A: Throw Timestream Navigator overboard, thus her cut.
B: Keep her as an Infinite Turn Combo; w/ one of the following:
Not counting the Kiki/Twin duo, this is all I can think of. What's the best choice as well as being flavorful? Why I say "Flavorful"? Several users on this site actually wanted this to be as Flavorful as possible. But what is truly good here? Is going Flavorful too much? If so, what line to draw?
Opinions?
October 16, 2019 2:26 p.m.
Back again. I just wanted to know just one thing: Timestream Navigator requires her to be at the Bottom of the Library as a cost to make infinite loops of Extra Turns.
From there, Assembly Hall is out; Who has a 2nd copy of any card that's not a Basic, or if the rules text bypasses thus as easily?
Token creation cards like Soul Foundry & Mimic Vat won't work. Timestream Navigator would have to be DEAD before Imprinting her.
Which leaves us w/ Feldon of the Third Path & Followed Footsteps . If neither work so well either; then the Navigator will be thrown overboard w/ a leftover Naval Mine.
So who will it be?
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I'd love to know your answer, please respond soon...
October 17, 2019 2:29 p.m.
BIG UPDATE: Recently finished some decks, & this one's next.
Remember what I said about Timestream Navigator Earlier? Well, I also ponder how many useful Targets Helm of the Host has; & what's it good for? Well, I though a lot about it: How many uses for it are there? & IF this is meant to be Flavor-Tribe Based, what about the Deceit? Broken Alliances to benefit yourself? You know, what famed Pirates like Edward Teach (Blackbeard), & even Fictional Examples like Ol' Cap'n Jack Sparrow (Sorry for the references; I just hope those two examples are well known at least...)? That said, I've 2 questions; one will be in the OP, so 1 for now. Is the following combo Legitimate?: Helm of the Host + Timestream Navigator ? I'll update the OP after.
Thanks for all the help thus far BTW! ;D
October 18, 2019 8:22 p.m.
Supplemental: I guess nobody wants to help w/ this deck anymore? I just wonder what else is there that can help Authenticity of Flavor in Pirate Tribal. I'd like some ideas, please. In the meanwhile, I'll see what I can do about other things...
October 19, 2019 12:25 p.m.
Back. I don't suppose you guys want to help with this deck anymore? I actually have about 2 at 100, but the Gauge is being very non-realistic about cuts. That's for another time. But at this point, when someone lent their ideas, I thought they seemed pretty good. Still, I ponder further as to why nobody is helping also. Was it something I said? Aw whatever; If there is anyone left that could help, let me know. I actually would appreciate thus. I'll have to talk about this to someone; & not here as it is.
Any ideas, though?
BMHKain says... #2
I'm just going to have to go for an update here.
No response since this was edited. I've since added Piracy , which seems Flavorful enough; & using your Opponent's Lands as Mana of your own? Pretty friggen awesome. Anyone else have an idea for Timestream Navigator Infinite Extra Turns; what 2nd piece would not only work great, but is also Flavorful like you guys want it to be?
Thanks, even though nobody helped thus far... :(
October 15, 2019 5:08 p.m.