I actually have a lot of land stuck and mana problems with this deck with 38 lands, it could be also because I don't have most of the fetch lands or the still using the generic lands that came with this deck so getting out the dragons and enchantments is rare unless I can ramp really well.

Hey nice Deck but maybe swap Patriarch's Bidding to Rise of the Dark Realms for 4 mana more all creatures

I've been this Deck for quite a while now. Originaly it featured a lot more control pieces (board wipes, removal, counterspells) and a lot less actual dragons. The deck worked but wasn't too much fun to play.

A couple of weeks back I decided to pretty much 1:1 copy this Version here, with only minimal changes.

Oh boy, is it fun. The deck is surprisingly fast, aggressive and can pull off wins out of seemingly nowhere.

I've had one of the most insane EDH games with this Deck. It went something like this:

T1: Land T2: Land T3: Land, Urza's Incubator T4: Morophon, the Boundless T5: The Ur-Dragon

That match was over in 2-3 more turns and it was nothing but hysterical.

Judge_Beard Yeah I used to run him but most of the time when I dropped him for the damaging ult I was already winning or it would be a very expensive card draw piece for one time. So it felt like a "win more" type of card to me so I cut it.

chiri That was one of the main reason's I had included him. Great against small token decks that try to get under you and can pick off some other stuff at 1 toughness. It did end up being a little too expensive for the cost when you don't see as many token decks so I had replaced it for more versatile board wipe effects.

Infernocoppu Ramos is back in now and I'm giving him another chance. He's been decent enough so far that I want to keep trying him but still hasn't made the list of Dragons I will never cut. I used to run Lurking Predators in my Karrthus version a long time ago. It was really good to get back into the game but there was a play pattern that would come up. People would cast a bunch of spells and the enchantment forces you to play them. So I would end up with having a lot of dragons on the field but then they would board wipe after casting all the spells essentially 6-for-1ing me and then leaving me with even less options of dragons to draw in the deck. While I can appreciate the reward of running this card, I'm personally not about that risk.

MonkeyDTroy Yeah I can see it happening with this deck. I personally don't have that many problems with the mana and how the early turns progress. Usually, the ideal I hand I look for is 3-4 lands, ramp card, card draw card and 1-2 threats and then ride those to draw you into more things or get your Ur-Dragon engine going.

Pascal93 While it does hit all creatures, usually when I cast this card somebody or everyone is dead if it resolves with the amount of dragons in the graveyard. And with how mana hungry this deck, casting it for a lower effect but cheaper cost is way better most of the time.

Chrisnoants That's awesome! Getting those early Ur-Dragon casts and going crazy out the gate is always cool so glad you enjoy this version! Morophon is a card I've still debated over because other than Ur-Dragon, the reduction cost doesn't help the deck a bunch with a lot of double color cards. If I eventually have to cut something, I'll find the time to try him out.

Very nice deck, +1 from me. I especially like the altered art on the ur dragon.