Triple Six, Five, Forked Tongue [Retired]
Commander / EDH
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Lots of recent swaps —July 31, 2021
Recently made the following swaps:
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Draugr Necromancer replaced Grim Hireling. My meta's board states can get battle-cruisery and gummed up. I didn't think that Grim Hireling would trigger often enough, and I'd rather save the treasures for casting things. I have enough graveyard synergized decks in my meta that Draugr is worth it.
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Marionette Master replaced Fevered Suspicion. Fevered Suspicion seemed goofy to pull off at least once, but also has the likelihood of whiffing. Optimizing means removing randomness/chance where applicable. Marionette Master can be a finisher if enough treasures are amassed.
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Deadly Dispute replaced Thrill of Possibility. Since this deck wants to pump out tokens or steal creatures from opponents, I figured the sac requirement for Deadly Dispute was more synergistic.
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance replaced Tectonic Giant. The Giant felt lackluster in testing and I didn't like how one of the two cards will end up stranded in Exile. Both of Chandra's +1s are helpful, and having some removal with her -3 is good to have just in case.
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Chandra, Fire Artisan replaced Wild-Magic Sorcerer. The Cascade seemed to whiff each time I play tested it. The Cascade spells generally felt off-schedule, or the first spell I would cast from exile would usually be 3cmc or less. I like that Fire Artisan is another repeatable Impulse Draw effect and she has built in burn against opponents attacking her. Like Fevered Suspicion, optimizing means removing randomness/chance where applicable.
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Fire Covenant replaced Theater of Horrors. I wanted/needed a board wipe effect, and Fire Covenant feels like it fills that role well enough. It has a relatively low CMC for the effect, and can be played at instant speed from Exile. Definitely useful for setting up wipes for Revel in Riches. I felt comfortable with removing Theater of Horrors since I added in the two Chandras. Although Theater didn't have the timing restriction for its impulse draw, I didn't like that it had the life loss restriction as a hoop to jump through.
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Inspiring Statuary replaced a Basic Mountain. This is for sure mostly for play-testing purposes. Ideally, Statuary will help with banking up Treasures using Improvise, and will be most bonkers with the Food and Clue tokens from Academy Manufactor. This non-bos a bit with Mayhem Devil and Disciple of the Vault, and is at its best with Academy Manufactor on board. This might get swapped back out for another land lol. If I don't swap a land back in, this could be a slot taken by Dead of Winter
Coward_Token says... #2
Oh and as boring as it is, I'd recommend upping your land count to 37; I go by this rule of thumb:
July 30, 2021 3:24 a.m.
Coward_Token says... #3
Ugh sorry, but finally: I think Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor can be cut for similar reasons as Gonti; at MV 7 I think a card should give you a great advantage within a turn at least, but Tibby is a typically gradual value 'Walker.
THAT'S IT, NO MORE NITPICKING FROM ME
(...I hope...)
July 30, 2021 8:57 a.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #4
Hi Coward_Token, thank you for the feedback! Gonti definitely would be better with a flicker source, like maybe a Conjurer's Closet , but I'm not sure if I would want to include it just for Gonti. I'll keep him on a new mental shortlist of possible cuts if he feels underwhelming.
Similarly, I was kinda off on Tibalt when it was first spoiled. I thought that 7 MV for the backside would be difficult for BR(x) decks to achieve without some additional Green ramp or ritual support. I like the flexibility that both sides offer, and could see myself playing the front side, even if it is like a pseudo-removal of a creature from hand that I could copy. My meta has a lot of variety, so I can find something worth while.
This deck originally started at 36 lands, then I cut one basic yesterday to squeeze in Inspiring Statuary . I think if I cut anything first, Statuary might get the axe. On paper, I like the idea of using it to bank up Treasures, Clues, and Food; although it does kind of non-bo with Mayhem Devil and Disciple of the Vault , and is kind of a dead card if I don't have the treasures/etc for it.
I felt like I hit my land drops maybe too consistently when I played Prosper IRL this past Monday lol. Pretty much every card he exiled with Mystic Arcanum was a land, and this happened like 5 times in a row. It's just one game of course, but between that and usually having 3-4 treasures, I felt comfortable at the current land count. I think I usually play 35-36 lands in most of my decks with similar average MVs, and also about 10+ ramp sources depending on the colors I'm in. If I feel mana starved I'll keep your land count suggestion in mind.
July 30, 2021 12:25 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #5
Now that I think about it Coward_Token, I'm also feeling pretty iffy about Wild-Magic Sorcerer . Each time I've play-tested it, I end up Cascading into a spell that I wouldn't necessarily want to play then. Since most of the stuff I would want to play from exile is on the cheaper end, MV-wise, it also doesn't give me a lot of wiggle room for spells to Cascade into.
July 30, 2021 12:53 p.m.
Coward_Token says... #6
Yeah you'd probably need to cut back on nonpermanent & ETB cards in order to not whiff with that
July 30, 2021 1:01 p.m.
Coward_Token says... #7
Also, note that Mizzix's Mastery sadly doesn't work the way one would hope:
https://old.reddit.com/r/askajudge/comments/oo7lcd/prosper_tomebound_and_copies_of_cards
July 30, 2021 3 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #8
Dang, good looking out Coward_Token. I guess I can take Surge to Victory off my maybeboard for similar reasons.
July 30, 2021 3:24 p.m.
babydaggers says... #10
Coward_Token… I care because you do
I just cut Mizzix Mastery thanks to your comments here and satisfied my curiosity about whether Ciphering the big black Pox-y sorcery onto something would be spicy with Prosper (apparently not)
July 30, 2021 10:45 p.m.
Crow_Umbra says... #11
babydaggers for similar reasons I trimmed out most, if not all Rebound, Cascade, and Madness cards from my initial build like 3 weeks ago. Just felt kinda bad to get some of those things in Exile without the top-deck manipulation beforehand. Thanks again for the nit-picking Coward_Token
Coward_Token says... #1
Nice deck. In goldfish playtesting it seems to make impulsive drawing fun yet practical, as the OK deck MV + Treasures lets you typically cast exiled cards.
Nitpicking feedback: Gonti, Lord of Luxury doesn't seem worth it without a flicker source, unless your meta is heavy on topdeck tutors (yes, I see Scheming Symmetry ). It's pretty much an unexciting body with Shimmer of Possibility attached except usually worse because stolen cards, on average, synergize worse with your deck than your own cards. I'm more okay with your other card stealers as they're all some combination of being cheaper, more reliable, reusable, and stealing trough some form of control.
July 30, 2021 3:15 a.m.