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The grindy midrange deck of my collection, Ghave, Guru of Spores. There are multiple avenues of victory: creature beats, a war of attrition or a ridiculous Ghave combo. This is likely the deck that has gone through the most change, as I have been trying to nail the feel of a grindy creature combo deck since I started playing. I went through a chunk of the Golgari commanders but struggled to find something that clicked; adding white gave me ways to slow down opponents as well as a combo piece in the command zone. As cbslinger put it: "The deck is kind of like Legacy Elves - it has a couple different angles of combo-kill that everyone is afraid of, but then they sometimes also just die to Skullclamp drawing a million cards, eating 21 commander damage out of nowhere or getting overrun by Tendershoot Dryad or something like that."

Still need to playtest quite a bit to see how things work and what I like. The sideboard is hatebears I am swapping in and out to fit my meta. Cards that would really push this deck over the edge are Earthcraft, Ad Nauseam and Tymna the Weaver. Earthcraft is the best card in a Ghave deck, while the other two provide insane card draw.


Game Plan

Start by ramping hard and slowing the game down where possible. Depending on the decks your opponents are playing, certain hatebears will make this phase easier. Incremental advantages in mana and cards add up here. Gauge the board to determine when it is best to drop Ghave; some players will try to get rid of him asap, while others will wait for the win condition. Try to set up a solid Necrologia or Bolas's Citadel phase to draw into the cards you need.

In terms of combat, Ghave can wreak havoc there as well. You can buff other players' creatures to mess with combat, drop counters on your unblocked creatures or use two mana to stop any creature without trample (create it and sac it before damage). The constant threat of a combo while creating that pressure is what makes the deck so fun!

Ghave + Young Wolf/Strangleroot Geist + Ashnod's Altar = Infinite colorless mana, saprolings and +1/+1 counters by moving the counter and then sacrificing the Wolf/Geist to do it all again.

Ghave + Young Wolf/Strangleroot Geist + Pitiless Plunderer = This combo is a little harder to get going since it requires we either draw or tutor for Pitiless Plunderer. Without Pitiless Plunderer this combo can still give lots of value but is limited by our mana so it can take a few turns to win.

Ghave + Good-Fortune Unicorn/Renata, Called to the Hunt/Champion of Lambholt + Ashnod's Altar = Infinite mana, saprolings and +1/+1 counters by moving the counter off of the generated saprolings and saccing one.

Ghave + Good-Fortune Unicorn/Renata, Called to the Hunt/Champion of Lambholt + Pitiless Plunderer + sac outlet = Infinite ETB/LTB triggers

Ghave + Good-Fortune Unicorn/Renata, Called to the Hunt + Kitchen Finks + Ashnod's Altar = Infinite mana, saprolings and +1/+1 counters

Ghave + Kitchen Finks + Good-Fortune Unicorn/Renata, Called to the Hunt + Pitiless Plunderer = Infinite +1/+1 counters

Kitchen Finks + Good-Fortune Unicorn/Renata, Called to the Hunt + a sac outlet = Infinite ETB/LTB triggers and infinite life, add Pitiless Plunderer or Ashnod's Altar for infinite mana

Infinite mana + Generous Patron/Skullclamp = Draw into a win condition

Infinite saprolings + sac outlet + Smothering Abomination = Draw into a win condition

Arbor Elf is good value in this list, untapping a Wild Growth or Underworld Connections enchanted land to double the effect.

Smothering Abomination is a mini Skullclamp for two mana with Ghave out on the board, just make sure to finish with a creature to sac at upkeep.

There are multiple infinite combos in these colors that aren't in the deck. Essentially these are combo packages that I can swap in if I get bored with the current playstyle. A weird Death and Taxes-esque build sounds really interesting at some point.

Juniper Order Ranger, Bloodspore Thrinax, Ivy Lane Denizen and Cathars' Crusade all allow for more Persist and Ghave combos. At the moment, card:Good-Luck Unicorn and Renata, Called to the Hunt should be enough.

Champion of Lambholt can grow big enough to take out players with a Persist combo, and gets counters while I drop tokens.

Cryptolith Rite allows me to use tokens for mana, but unlike Earthcraft it has to wait for summoning sickness to wear off. Still worth considering for tons of mana and the ability to combo with Strangleroot Geist for infinite ETB/LTB, as well as infinite mana with a sac outlet.

Devoted Druid and Vizier of Remedies create infinite green mana, which I could use to make an infinite token army with something like Ivy Lane Denizen, Sigil Captain, Juniper Order Ranger or Good-Fortune Unicorn on the field. Otherwise, it could go into Mirror Entity or Shalai, Voice of Plenty pump my creatures, or Walking Ballista to kill the table.

Saffi Eriksdotter, Renegade Rallier, Sun Titan, Karmic Guide and Reveillark all form the core of a recursion oriented combo deck if I want to stray away from token combos, and many of the payoff cards are the same.

Leonin Relic-Warder and Animate Dead create a loop of ETB/LTB effects that can drain the table with a payoff card in play. Final Parting sets up the combo perfectly.

A Protean Hulk package could work in this deck, with Ghave only needing one mana to sac Hulk and then grab a winning combo: Melira, Sylvok Outcast, Lesser Masticore, Disciple of the Vault, and Carrion Feeder/Viscera Seer.

Google Ghave looks hilarious and fun, so I'll probably pick the cards up sometime and surprise my group with it sometime.

Finally, I've seen some Enchantress lists floating around for Ghave so those might be worth a look as well.


Budget List from budgetbrews.club - I play more casual than this, but the list is a great point to work up to!

RylandL's Ghave Primer - This primer, while totally outside my budget and playgroup patience at the moment, got me interested in how crazy Ghave can be. The explanations are solid, right down to philosophy of the deck. Now I just need to get my hands on an Earthcraft...

Lerker's Up to Date cEDH List - The end goal if my group starts heading playing full cEDH, and constantly updated as new cards come out.

Guide to Saffi Insanity - If I add the Saffi package into this list, it's because enpc's deck list looks like an absolute blast to play.

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Date added 7 years
Last updated 3 years
Legality

This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Rarity (main - side)

1 - 0 Mythic Rares

25 - 0 Rares

37 - 0 Uncommons

14 - 0 Commons

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 2.53
Tokens Beast 3/3 G, City's Blessing, Morph 2/2 C, Saproling 1/1 G, Treasure
Folders EDH, My Decks
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