[Primer] Karametra's Bounce House

Commander / EDH Goretast

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Update —Nov. 1, 2018

Thank you everyone for your suggestions and feedback. It has taken some time and play testing, but I have some changes. I will also provide the reasoning for these changes.

(-) Titania, Protector of Argoth - Very rarely had a payoff and was always sitting in my hand because I had much better and impactful plays. Seems like a 'win more' card.

(-) True Conviction - Originally added to be a target for Academy Rector, but I seemingly always pick Zendikar Resurgent first and then Mirari's Wake for the mana doubling.

(-) Sun Titan - A good card, but not good enough to make the cut when looking at the cards I want to add.

(-) Sol Ring - A powerful card, but it doesn't feel good to win early because you got lucky and drew this card. It also is a dead card later in the game. If your meta plays Sol Ring and you have no qualms with winning because of it, you should keep it in your deck.

(+) Oketra's Monument - Great synergy with Whitemane Lion and allows us to generate infinite tokens with the Protean Hulk combo. Overall, a very strong card for a deck that relies on casting creatures. Bonus points for flavor with Oketra the True in the deck.

(+) Uncage the Menagerie - Great tutor for 2 mana cards. Gives us access to Lotus Cobra, Thornscape Familiar, and Whitemane Lion to go get massive value with karametra. There are also great 3 drops to go for, but overall this card makes the deck much more consistent.

(+) Temur Sabertooth - Allows us to bounce back creature for more triggers, but more importantly it lets us get a tutor engine going with Eternal Witness + Eladamri's Call. So you tutor for Eternal Witness, get Eladamri's Call back, tutor for Temur Sabertooth, and bounce back Eternal Witness. Rinse and repeat for value.

(+) Triumph of the Hordes - A great finisher that fits well with the theme of spamming out creatures. Not much else to say here.

Goretast says... #3

@Senomar Avenger of Zendikar is simply there to make the buff from Craterhoof Behemoth larger. The tokens won't have haste unless I have Akroma's Memorial, but I can swing out with the rest of my board that will have at least +10/10 with trample. Also, the combo does work because both enter simultaneously, but you chose what ETB triggers happen in what order.

June 6, 2018 2:57 p.m.

Beebles says... #5

Hey Goretast,

I looked through your list. These are some things that came to mind. Hope some of it might be useful to you ;).

  • I really like that your run Protean Hulk in addition to Academy Rector. Will probably go ahead and do the same :).
  • I miss Zendikar Resurgent in your list. That’s my number 1 rector target for sure.
  • Overall you run quite a low number of draw spells for my taste (I counted around 5). I prefer to run ~10: nothing is worse than being all ramped out and having nothing to spend that mana on. Potential cards to include (apart from resurgent) could be: Evolutionary Leap, Lifecrafter's Bestiary and Soul of the Harvest.

Other than that, I really liked your list. Nice selection leaning more on landfall and goodstuff. Looks like fun!

Greetings,

Beebles

June 9, 2018 11:31 a.m.

Goretast says... #6

Thanks for the suggestions! I've moved those cards in and out of the deck for awhile, but it seems like I got a little greedy on value without adding enough card draw. I added Zendikar Resurgent, Evolutionary Leap, and Lifecrafter's Bestiary. I also want to try Kozilek, Butcher of Truth as a possible mid-game wincon with great draw for late game.

June 10, 2018 10:21 p.m.

bem77 says... #7

Fun looking deck and nice layout and explanation for this deck. Keep up the good work.

June 22, 2018 11:11 a.m.

ScionLocke says... #8

Have you considered Oketra's Monument? it's a cost reducer for Whitemane Lion and it creates a threatening board state at the same time. Also just in case you feel like you need more card draw, Arch of Orazca exist and it shouldn't be too hard to pay that cost in this deck.

June 28, 2018 11:42 a.m.

Goretast says... #9

Thanks for the suggestion ScionLocke! I was considering it awhile back, but I think it would be a great addition now especially with a Whitemane Lion infinite combo built in. Any suggestions on what I should cut?

June 28, 2018 2:31 p.m.

ScionLocke says... #10

I'm not a huge fan of Beastcaller Savant. I know you generally don't want to take away from the creature count in this style of deck but I think what Oketra's Monument offers is similar enough with a bigger pay off in most cases.

June 29, 2018 2:19 a.m.

Goretast says... #11

I run Beastcaller Savant for a haste trigger for Odric, Lunarch Marshal when I pull it with Protean Hulk. It allows for a gross swing with Odric buffs. I'll have to give the idea some thought because I do think Oketra's Monument should be in the deck.

June 29, 2018 2:56 a.m.

ScionLocke says... #12

If it's too hard to cut from the creature package, I think the loss of explosive starts with Sol Ring or Exploration might suffice.

June 29, 2018 10:55 a.m.

Vidjalante says... #13

I think you could drop Thornscape Familiar for Oketra's Monument. Similar effect on each except Monument gives you a little bit more payoff and is a bit harder to remove. :) Love the build; more like Karametra, Jack of all Trades! <3

July 28, 2018 5:59 p.m.

Goretast says... #14

Hey Vidjalante, thanks for your comment. I'm glad you like the deck! I run Thornscape Familiar because it can be pulled with Protean Hulk to start an infinite combo with Whitemane Lion and Lotus Cobra immediately. It's a very strong combo in the deck that would be even stronger if I can find a spot for Oketra's Monument. I'm still giving some thought on what I want to cut.

July 28, 2018 6:29 p.m.

As a way to deal with direct damage, why not try Pariah? I'm sure your gods won't mind...

August 6, 2018 3:42 p.m.

Goretast says... #16

Hey slayingmatt1234, I've never seen Pariah before. It seems like a really solid fit. Do you have any suggestions on what I would remove to add it?

August 6, 2018 3:57 p.m.

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure. One thing I will say that I don't like about this deck (and this could be just me, I don't know your meta) is that it looks like you don't have many ways to get karametra out early, and instead have a lot of high cmc cards. So I would recommend taking out something that lowers your curve. Which one though, I'm not sure. Maybe Sun Titan since you have other ways to recur stuff and it misses a lot of your deck?

Anyway, I have my own Karametra deck here if you are interested. It plays a little differently but I'm sure it has a few more ideas for you. I'm a big Karametra fan myself!

August 6, 2018 4:27 p.m.

Wazgold1981 says... #18

What about truimph of the hordes as an additional win con, with any overun effect or cratorhoof flashed in with the elf that lets you drop creaturs for 1 green mana, i also runn wolfbrior elemental and the sabortooth that lets you return creatures to your hand....

October 17, 2018 7:19 p.m.

Goretast says... #19

Thanks for the suggestions Wazgold1981. I really like Triumph of the Hordes and Wolfbriar Elemental. Do you have any suggestions on what to remove for those additions?

October 19, 2018 1:58 p.m.