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Commander / EDH* Dazard

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more spellslinging, less certainity —Dec. 5, 2022

I took out Gorgon Flail and added Darksteel Plate instead. I noticed that i usually got deathtouch for my commander pretty reliably and i ended up having idle deathtouch equipment on my hand. On the other hand indestructible for my commander might come in really handy as well

Sigil of Sleep seems nice but it bothered me that it sends creatures back to the hand, because i want to kill it instead. I replaced it with Gut Shot, because i somehow missed out on it before. As this deck is turning more and more into a spellslinger instead of a pinger deck, being able to cast spells for 0 mana is just too tempting to not put it in

so being more focused on spending more mana for extra spells i got rid of Mana Barbs since it was hurting my own gameplan as well. Plus it feels good to to not be "that guy" anymore. Instead i put in another spellslinger staple: Brainstorm

last but not least i added Isochron Scepter to have another combo with Dramatic Reversal online. I got rid of Fire / Ice because its effects in relation to the mana cost just felt 'meh' compared to the other spells i have

i also put in some more dual lands to make everything run more smoothly.

So as i already mentioned this is turning more and more into a spellslinger decker while moving away from the pinger theme. please let me know what you think. I hope i am not getting too sidetracked from my concepts as more and more input is confusing me more and more ;)

Dazard says... #1

@shock7123: true, but me (and my group) are a bit of haters for "you win the game" cards, so the niv-mizzet combos alone are borderliney enough :P But thanks for your suggestions!

November 30, 2022 6:15 a.m.

DreadKhan says... #2

Not sure if you've got enough bodies for it, but Kyren Negotiations lets each creature ping your opponent each turn, which your Commander can buff.

I like the idea of throwing in lifelink equipment, some of it has other upsides. The ones I think look most interesting are Shadowspear, which gives buffs and can remove Indestructible, and maybe Resurrection Orb, but you do have to send your Commander to the graveyard I think to get the recursion.

If you want a way to get a 1 drop into your hand more reliably, there is Dizzy Spell, which is much cheaper than Fabricate and can find any 1 drop. There are other Transmute cards for different MV, all Black or Blue. Blue can't find 4 drops IIRC, but can find a bunch of others.

A generically helpful creature in a deck that likes a 1/1 flying token is Faerie Formation, which makes tokens and draws cards, both tend to be helpful on their own, getting both is nice. Another card that I feel like is kind of good in this deck would be Arc Mage, it's a nice budget way to ping two creatures for 1, in a pinch it can also do 2 if your Commander isn't out.

If you go the Propaganda route, some other cards to consider are War Tax and Ensnaring Bridge. If you can keep your creatures power low enough (and have some draw), Noetic Scales can be very good at keeping the board clear of big threats, and you can deal with the weenies I suspect.

November 30, 2022 10:25 a.m.

carpecanum says... #3

I haven't made a deck with this commander yet but I want to. It's a little too close to my pinger deck for me to really get motivated for it though (Yeah, sure. Keranos will work). I should probably try to simply swap commanders. You can tell by the name I already had a deck and just wanted a commander with any synergy at all.

Cards I thought might be cool here include Toralf, God of Fury  Flip, Neko-Te, Wojek Embermage, Cosmotronic Wave.

Deathtouch kills with 1 point so Toralf will kill 3 creatures with a 1 point ping. You get to move lots of damage around if the enemy had an army of 1/1's and you do a point to all of them. Wojek Embermage can kill an army if your boss in off board with a deathtouch artifact or even more if your boss is active. Neko-Te takes out creatures with Indestructible.

November 30, 2022 1:52 p.m.

Dazard says... #4

Thank you for your suggestions. really interesting stuff!

@DreadKhan: i didn't know about the transmute mechanic, so i will def. swap Dizzy Spell for Fabricate as it is much more budget friendly (even tho i was excited about having a reason to get that admech artwork card). great advice! Shadowspear and Resurrection Orb would be a great additions but both are too costly for my thin wallet ;)

@carpecanum: Toralf, God of Fury  Flip is a great addition! i just had to made room for him, so i took Burn Down the House out even tho it hurts a little to loose a sorcery in this deck. Interestingly, reading the ruletext closely, i don't even have to be the one dealing the damage to make him trigger, right? I would love to add Wojek Embermage but i really don't know which card i should cut then? maybe The Locust God and say completely goodbye to the 1/1 token subtheme?

December 1, 2022 2:26 a.m.

carpecanum says... #5

Yeah, any damage triggers Toralf. Damage based boardwipes will win you the game. Maybe drop Razorfin Hunter? Inferno Titan? I just remembered another card you might like. Quicksilver Dagger

December 2, 2022 1:09 a.m.

Dazard says... #6

@carpecanum: the problem with Wojek Embermage is that it also deals damage to my own creatures, so it will kill all my fragile but important pingers AND my commander as well. So at the end i better skip on this guy.

December 2, 2022 6:06 a.m.