Oloro White Blue Black Creatureless Control

Commander / EDH hootsnag

SCORE: 84 | 79 COMMENTS | 13134 VIEWS | IN 31 FOLDERS


New Update —Aug. 28, 2022

Removed Introduction to Annihilation and Secure the Scene. Added Ward of Bones and Perilous Vault.

SufferFromEDHD says... #1

This looks brutal.

What are your thoughts on Collective Restraint and Humility? Looking at your list that was the only upgrade I could think of for the strategy.

June 5, 2022 4 p.m.

hootsnag says... #2

I quit trying to play with Humility. I got tired of all the arguments about what was affected and what wasn't. It's a card that normally would be in the deck but I got tired of dealing with the rule headaches when playing with friends. If I was running basic lands, I would definitely run Collective Restraint. Thanks for the feedback!

June 5, 2022 4:36 p.m.

SufferFromEDHD says... #3

Absorb over Negate for the Oloro trigger.

June 5, 2022 9:05 p.m.

hootsnag says... #4

I'm trying to only use counter spells that cost 2 mana or less. Thanks for the feedback!

June 5, 2022 9:28 p.m.

SufferFromEDHD says... #5

haha ok. Well then at the very least Dovin's Veto is an upgrade. Your deck inspired me to build my own creatureless version. Last suggestions:

Karmic Justice 100% protection

Tainted AEther no staxation without representation.

Paradox Haze double Oloro

Alhammarret's Archive double Oloro

June 5, 2022 9:53 p.m.

hootsnag says... #6

Sweet! Glad you drew some inspiration! I don't run counterspells that are 2 different colored mana (or more). Also, Karmic Justice and Tainted Aether were cards I tried in this deck a long time ago and they just seemed to be filler cards and people were still going to destroy my important permanents regardless. I also use to run No Mercy in this deck but removed it for the same reasons. Moat (and similar cards) along with counterspells are just better in my opinion. Paradox Haze and Alhammaret's Archive aren't something I would run in this version of the deck. Oloro is strictly just to keep me alive long enough to get my win condition combo off. You could run those if you wanted to run Aetherflux Reservoir as a win condition though. I appreciate the feedback! If you do build a creatureless version, feel free to post it here so I can take a look. I always enjoy seeing other people's perspectives.

June 5, 2022 10:25 p.m. Edited.

Ender666666 says... #7

Does Lotus Petal deserve a spot in a world of Treasures?

June 6, 2022 midnight

hootsnag says... #8

Lotus Petal stays in. If only Bootlegger's Stash wasn't green.....

June 6, 2022 12:35 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #9

That's fair. I understand it for the quick mana aspect. My question was more a musing on how it might be better to run something that does something AND makes a treasure token at the same time, effectively doubling up your fun.

June 7, 2022 1:17 p.m.

hootsnag says... #10

I've checked all treasure token cards in magic. None of them fit with this deck really. It's unfortunate :(

June 7, 2022 1:22 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #11

What about the upcoming Black Market Connections?

June 7, 2022 1:57 p.m.

hootsnag says... #12

I'm not so sure about this one. Essentially it's 3 mana for one mana next turn. It's also worse than Phyrexian Arena for card draw. I would run Mana Vault (which I do), Grim Monolith, and others over Black Market Connections personally. If I needed creatures as well, then I would consider running it. Just my thoughts.

June 7, 2022 7:28 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #13

I just like that it can get you all those things, each turn if necessary, at a cost that hurts us a lot less than other players.

Time will tell through playtesting it in my own deck.

June 7, 2022 10:29 p.m.

hootsnag says... #14

I totally agree that the flexibility it offers is definitely of value to certain decks. It's going to be interesting to see. Let me know how your testing goes with it.

June 7, 2022 11:36 p.m.

Oloro "oh bore oh" Creatureless Control

Tear your inspiration a new one. Gonna test it out this weekend.

June 8, 2022 1:53 p.m.

hootsnag says... #16

Awesome!

June 8, 2022 2:46 p.m.

sixtysixstyx says... #17

Dovins veto?

June 15, 2022 8:04 a.m.

hootsnag says... #18

Nah. I'm only using single colored counterspells. Thanks for the feedback!

June 16, 2022 12:42 a.m.

chivalruse says... #19

Secure the Scene and Reduce to Memory are really bad cards. I know you intentionally didn't put planeswalkers in the deck, but Kaya the Inexorable is just a better Secure the Scene. I'd replace Reduce to Memory with Vanishing Verse. If you are curious about the rest of the removal suite that I use in my Esper Control deck, here's the link: Value / Grindy - Nevinyrral Esper Control

August 25, 2022 1:39 p.m.

hootsnag says... #20

I appreciate the feedback. I know that Secure the Scene and Reduce to Memory aren't that great. However, I am sticking to a theme in this deck. Only exile removal and no Planeswalkers. I could add several other cards if I wanted to be even more efficient but it's just not what I want for this deck. I'll check out your deck. Thanks!

August 25, 2022 2:15 p.m.