Nekusar’s Deck of Pain and Punishment (no wheels)

Commander / EDH KayneMarco

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Feb. 15, 2019

Exchanged Mind Over Matter for Forced Fruition One of the commenters made me realize with no discard effects the Megrim effects wouldn’t do much. Well with all the extra draw effects plus adding Fruition opponents will definitely be forced to discard during their cleanup step.

Bchong says... #1

Nekusar just makes people win...competitive deck literally don't care about health. Most people would be happy to draw 2 cards and pay 8 health with Sylvan Library, or they play cards like Ad Nauseam. You need to be playing cards like Arcane Laboratory so they can't benefit from drawing 3+ cards a turn...even then you are just handing people the win, because you are one bounce spell away to be totally screwed.

February 25, 2018 1:08 p.m.

KayneMarco says... #2

Bchong: doesnt matter that theyre getting all the xtra cards per turn because they wont be living long enough to take advantage of having them

February 25, 2018 1:32 p.m.

Bchong says... #3

KayneMarco look for most the more competitive decks adding one or 2 more draws will make them win a turn or 2 earlier, because all they need to do is hit a tutor effect and win. Regardless even semi competitive decks can consistently win by turn 5 or 6. The 40 life you start with in commander makes your strategy take more than 2 turns to win and especially since you aren't running any wheels. I think it would be a good idea to run something like Notion Thief and then you get to draw 3 every go around. And then your wheels will act as a wincon because you will kill everyone's hand. You should also run some combos yourself so that you can take advantage of your own draws.

BTW you need to be running all of the possible signets and talismans that you possibly can. Ramp in EDH is OP and while you have some ramp you need to get all of it.

February 25, 2018 2:35 p.m.

KayneMarco says... #4

Bchong: I really do like the idea of Notion Thief. I will have to figure out a card to take out for that one. Great suggestion.

February 25, 2018 2:39 p.m.

KayneMarco says... #5

Bchong: you made me lose sight of my main goal with this deck for a second lol. I want my opponents to draw all those extra cards every turn. If they try casting a card that can royally mess with my goal I will just counter it with one of the counters I will wind up drawing into with all the extra cards I will be drawing as well.

February 25, 2018 2:51 p.m.

Bchong says... #6

Better load up on some counterspells because 6 counterspells is no where near enough.

On you can put a Curiosity or other similar cards.

February 25, 2018 9:17 p.m.

KayneMarco says... #7

Bchong: Bout the only things I am really worried bout is mass enchantment removal. The amount of damage this deck can do per turn is very hard to keep up with so I am not worried bout much else. So far the 6 counters that are in this deck have been enough.

February 25, 2018 9:38 p.m.

Slowjams88 says... #8

Wheel decks are consistently winning on turn 4 or 5? Are they playing people with completely no answers for anything?

February 26, 2018 5:29 p.m.

Slowjams88 says... #9

Wheel decks are consistently winning on turn 4 or 5? Are they playing people with completely no answers for anything?

February 26, 2018 6:21 p.m.

KayneMarco says... #10

Slowjams88: I know right?

February 26, 2018 7 p.m.

Leminestrone says... #11

Love the nowheel way of building this deck ! Its quite cool and original +1

July 14, 2018 12:12 p.m.

_jeremy3 says... #12

In my Nekusar deck Teferi's Puzzlebox kills people. I think it's a fun card :)

December 13, 2018 3:24 a.m.