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Commander / EDH Beebles

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Another Land Weapon —July 30, 2017

In light of the goal to create a deck that keeps surprising to play, I decided to attain a Dark Depths and have another strategy this deck can use to be aggressive. Changes:

I also added 2 HOU cycling deserts to get my cycle land count to 5. This helps with Life from the Loam as well with overal consistency. I removed Undiscovered Paradise, as that can screw you over early game, and Command Beacon as I haven't used that meaningfully yet.

Cheers,

Paavvukun says... #1

Hi there, love the deck. I run a Mina and Denn landfall deck myself -> Mina and Denn's Wild Adventure Please check it out if you don't mind.

Have you considered Storm Cauldron? It allows you to land lands more landily, bounces your lands for you with minimal efforts, and can really disrupt your opponents' strategies all by itself. It might be a bit tricky to use, but I've loved the card as I find it too hilarious not to use.

Since you play a lot of tokens, what about Champion of Lambholt? She herself can get massively huge with just a few creature drops and in turn makes your creatures incredibly hard to block. I usually will play her and Avenger of Zendikar off of a Tooth and Nail for an instantly huge board.

Last suggestion: Genesis Wave. I don't know how big into the ramp game you are as much as the "shuffle-lands-around-constantly" game but with a couple of haste effects, Genesis Wave is an easy way to drop a bunch of lands and threats all at once.

Anyways, love it, glad to see it. Keep it going.

June 27, 2017 11:40 p.m.

Beebles says... #2

Hey Paavvukun,

Thanks for taking the time to look at my list and to give me some suggestions. Did you also see cards you would cut? I hope to return the favor and look at your list when I have some more time on my hands.

About your tips:

  • Storm Cauldron: this was in the first version of the deck but I removed it at some point for it being too situational. However, the "too hilarious not to play" argument is strong. I will reconsider this card ;).
  • Champion of Lambholt: a good card for sure. However, I do not consider it a must play as I don't want to push the token stuff too far. Also, for tokens I prefer surprise effects over build-up ones.
  • Genesis Wave: yes, I love this card as well. I did not put it in because I thought I played quite some non-permanent cards. But I checked, and I'm at 14 right now, which is actually not that high. I will consider adding the wave to this list.

Again, thanks for your time

June 28, 2017 4:08 a.m.

Paavvukun says... #3

Ugh, see, you're asking me to do the hard part - cutting cards - lol. Hmm, I'm not a personal fan of Perilous Vault, but that's because I hate exiling my own stuff, but RG doesn't have much in the way of boardwipes (aside from Jokulhaups-type effects) so you can't be too picky. Other than that, Avenger of Zendikar?...? Reason being, it's a 7-drop if you don't cheat it into play, and if you do, it's typically at sorcery speed and the token army it brings with it is usually just "wrathed" off the board within the round. From my own games, I might be able to drop a land or two to make them a bit bigger, but at times it doesn't feel worth it (I still run it myself, but it's getting close to the chopping block). However, your deck is all about shuffling the lands around so your land drops are way more consistent.

I know all that doesn't sound super convincing, but your list is really tight. Hope this is something worth considering :)

June 30, 2017 12:03 a.m.

Beebles says... #4

Hey Paavvukun! Thanks for your thoughts. I was away for a while, so sorry for the late reply.

  • I actually really like Perilous Vault in this deck as exiling my own non-lands is not as bad for me as for other players. I run almost no ways to recur anything other than lands, so if they're exiled or in the graveyard is kind of the same.
  • I see your point about Avenger of Zendikar. I've heard that criticism before and it might actually be good option to cut. Despite that I still really like the card, even if it usually ends up being just wrath-bait. I haven't played it enough to be bored of it yet ;).
  • I already found room for your Genesis Wave tip! I feel it is more at home here then in the deck I used to run it in. So thanks!

I will look at your list now.

July 6, 2017 9:14 a.m.