Taking this to tonight's FNM, I'll report on how it goes.

I was wondering if Ezuri, Renegade Leader would make sense in the deck.

RustBeltGames, it would if I wasn't playing standard.

Thanks for the suggestion and upvote though! :)

Anyones thoughts on a Nissa, Vastwood Seer  ^Flip would be appreciated.

She's decent for Shaman of the Pack's trigger. But her flipside is kind of geared towards landfall/ramp decks. Might as well go for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar for the pump and tokens.

The only reason I'm considering Nissa is to help smooth out the land curve.

I'd say yes. It's really more of a bonus if she flips.

I'd say take out a Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen and a Sylvan Messenger if you consider Nissa, Vastwood Seer  ^Flip

Read everything you wrote cover to cover. Seems legit.

I like all the forced loss of life from Shaman of the Pack and Foul-Tongue Shriek. It seems good for business.

I'm curious if you ever even get to use Nissa, Vastwood Seer  ^Flip? She is an elf before you flip her, and 3 mana for a 2/2 that grabs you a forest isn't bad I suppose. She's actually better before you flip her I think. It seems that Sylvan Advocate might be nice there for 1 less mana and a bigger body that just gets bigger. It works better if you can use Nissa's ultimate and make a bunch of land creatures, but I don't see games lasting long enough for that. Just a curiosity. Dwynen's Elite is another solid option that gives you two elves for 2 mana which seems pretty nice in this deck.

Also, why not Leaf Gilder or Lifespring Druid? They don't have the same creature-specific mana so you could use it for Might of the Masses, Collected Company, or towards creatures. I suppose you are right that 31 creatures doesn't exactly exclude that mana from getting used so maybe that's not even worth looking at here.

As far as sideboard, I like Bone Splinters as a nice cheap option to kill something big and all it would cost you is one black mana and something like an Elvish Visionary. Too bad it isn't an instant though. Grasp of Darkness works too and obliterates anything you'll find in a Bant Company deck (we have 2 or 3 of these regularly at FNM...) Also Clip Wings is a great way to deal with Ormendahl, Profane Prince if you have anyone that plays with Abby, but also Dragonlord Atarka and Dragonlord Ojutai. Those two see a lot of play for me locally. Display of Dominance could be nice if you have B or U control issues at all. Buy yourself a free attack maybe, or just protect your mana producers early on to maintain your ramp. We also have a lot of Sphinx's Tutelage players and Natural State is pretty much automatic. Pulse of Murasa is a personal favorite. Perhaps it's best suited in Draft which is where we used it to great effect, just a thought.

Well, just many thoughts. Of course I have a lot of my local meta in mind here, and I don't know what you've already tried. Out of everything, I think the best suggestion I have would be to replace Nissa with Dwynen's Elite because of the 2 for 1 effect that works great to fuel Might as well as that Shaman and it's one less to cast. Sideboard is all subjective to your local meta so take your pick. I don't see anything particularly wrong with what you've got up there already though other than not really needing both Path and Slaughter.

I like the deck, and congrats on your win at FNM :)

Thank you for taking the time to respond so thoughtfully, now for my reply

The Nissa is still in a trial period as its only reason in here is to help me hit my lands and thin my deck. I'm never really tring to get her to flip

I'm running a playset of Dwynen's Elite, did you not see them?

As for the Leaf Gilder and Lifespring Druid, they don't perform as well as the Savant. The druid costs to much, but might find a home in a more mid-range build. And the Leaf Gilder's not having haste is awful, because more often than not I'm either swing with the savant or tapping it immediately.

With the sideboard I meant to have Natural State in there over the To the Slaughters but haven't gotten around to fixing it yet, thank you for reminding me. I'll try to find a spot for Clip Wings though, and like you said the Pulse is more for draft than for this deck.

Lol I did miss that, the layout made it a little harder to notice when I went back up after reading that you already had them. Whoops :)

Savant does have haste... that was retarded, I missed that too. I don't have a standard green deck so I'm less familiar with current mana elves. I wish I had more of these cards, I think it would be fun to play as nobody is running elves at my local fnm. Control is stupid popular though.

When I took this to FNM it caught everyone of guard, and so many people were like "Wow, he's running elves, I didn't know people ran elves". This also got me my first first place win

And at my meta it is SOOOO much control or white weenies and they all netdeck them so it's like *Wow, I know exactly what you're running

When I took this to FNM it caught everyone of guard, and so many people were like "Wow, he's running elves, I didn't know people ran elves". This also got me my first first place win

And at my meta it is SOOOO much control or white weenies and they all netdeck them so it's like Wow, I know exactly what you're running

Yeah, people were really surprised when I showed up one week with mono red goblins. I love breaking meta and bringing decks that weren't just ripped off the pro tour. I played a guy that had a $900 jeskai deck a while back, $300 or more just in his mana pool. Of course he beat me 2-1, but the game I beat him with my $30 home brew was fantastic :)

@Hobbez9186 Control is going to be wildly popular because Esper put 2 decks in the semifinals on the pro tour for SOI, so all the people that usually rag on it are probably playing it now :)

Skwarka If there were any suggestion that Hobbez made that I would agree with, it's the set of Sylvan Advocates if you have the ability to pick them up. they give you the out to straight up smash with a fat creature if all else fails. And makes it less grindy repopulating after a sweeper if the game gets to that point.

Funny enough, I usually do run control, and I'm not even running it right now because the format is so diverse that there's just too many builds I want to play. I'm running a rather janky reanimator build that would probably cry against this deck, but is pretty well suited for the ocean of midrange/control players. If you're interested, here it is:

Sultai Reanimator

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It's not that I don't have the advocates, It's that I don't want to cut anything for them

Truth.

I hate being in that position where I can't decide what to keep. That's why I often make poor decisions when pulling from my sideboard. I like my mainboard so much that I just don't know what to do sometimes. That's why I like running decks with many 4x cards so I can thin as many as I need down to 3x to bring in from sideboard without altering my main too much. In your case, I'd say the card that looks easiest to either thin down or swap to sideboard is the Sylvan Messenger. Having like 2 of them main and 2 Advocates seem like it could work out well and lower the mana curve slightly which would allow you to spread out a little faster.

I mean, you've already won FNM and proven that it works just fine, so it's not like anything NEEDS to change :)

The only things I could recommend cutting at all would be 2 copies of Sylvan Messenger and a copy of each Might of the Masses and Foul-Tongue Shriek. This deck really does have trouble fighting for slots, didn't think there were that many solid choices for elves out there lol.

The deck is already solid though, so it'd just be tuning for next week. Just looking at what changes people might make to adapt to you, and how you can weaken their probable game plans in the upcoming weeks.

It may be a solid deck, but if it only wins 2-1 there is room for improvement.

I really want to keep the messenger because I always want to have elves to play.

That's really the only thing I could see cutting, tbh though. Like I said, this deck is fighting pretty hard for spots. If anything, I'd playtest first trying out any of the other configurations. If any of the cards feel underwhelming at any point in the game, those are the cards you want to cut a couple copies of.

I run a very similar deck, same creatures same instants, same sideboard. Nissa works great. My meta is mainly control and net decking and I also love breaking the meta. Nissa usually gets killed right away unless you play her turn 7. My favorite play is playing her, getting the 7th land, playing a shaman, then playing the land to flip. I use Evolutionary Leap but will cut those for Warping Wail because of all the board wipes going around and it can take out a Hangarback Walker when played for 1 (all the time against this kind of deck). Wonderful deck, ive always loved it.

Warping Wail is the best.

It is a great card, I wanted to figure out where I could put it not realizing I already had a deck that needed it. Now I was wondering about the mana cost, I can only pay colorless mana for its cost correct?