Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]

Commander / EDH Liquidbeaver

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Update - More Competitive Direction —March 6, 2017

I made quite a few changes to make the deck much more competitive in my playgroup (and outside of it), while also focusing more on utilizing Ib to the fullest extent.

Added Stax effects to slow the game down, which will help protect me while I am building up my boardstate. Edit: This is going well, but it needs to be a little stronger.

It is really light on the instant spells (unintentionally), so looking for any suggestions on good includes, especially if they are X costed. I need a few more options for mana sinks and alternate wincons.

I'd really like to drop the CMC more. 3 or lower would be fantastic. Edit: GREAT SUCCESS!

Probably looking to stabilize the token generation next. As it stands it is huge bursts, with almost nothing inbetween. This will be better with Thornbite Staff in for FNM, but may also include Dragon's Fodder/Krenko's Command/etc..

The decklist of the extensive mayboard for this deck can be found here: Ib Halfheart (Maybeboard Overflow)

These are the cards that were in the deck at some point, or were considered, but ultimately cut.

Ithyn says... #1

Fall of the Titans is an instant somewhere between Bonfire of the Damned and Burn from Within.

February 19, 2017 11:13 a.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #2

@Ithyn - Thanks for the suggestion! Maybeboarding it for now, until I get a feel how Bonfire and BFW play out together. If I end up not needing the Indestructible removal from BFW very much, then Bonfire/Fall of the Titans combo would be stronger.

February 20, 2017 2:05 a.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #3

Made a few changes, mostly with tutoring, and how I would be handling flyers.

Trying to cut two cards, but singling out the weakest cards is getting harder and harder.

If you have any ideas, let me know!

February 20, 2017 2:06 a.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #4

Cut two mountains, as my CMC is already really low, and I have a lot of backup rocks and mana generation. I still may cut a non-basic to get back to an even number of mountains so that I have full pairs for Ib's sac ability.

I would really like to get Gratuitous Violence back in the deck, as it only benefits me compared to the table with the other damage doublers red has access to.

February 20, 2017 1:43 p.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #5

Shivan Harvest out for Gratuitous Violence. This is my casual deck and my playgroup doesn't really like land destruction, and neither do I for this version.

I will have another version of this deck that is more competitive, that is full of all the Ruination, Boom/Bust, Shivan Harvest, and the like for that one.

February 20, 2017 2:19 p.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #6

Bloodmark Mentor and Legion Loyalist removed because I misunderstood when Ib's replacement effect happens. It is at the end of the Declare Blockers phase, so creatures with First Strike never actually get to the point where they can use it.

February 21, 2017 11:52 a.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #7

Made a lot of changes to the deck, and I will be updated the primer soon.

February 28, 2017 12:24 a.m.

Optimator says... #8

Very cool! Great write-up.

February 28, 2017 12:32 a.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #9

Thanks for the support Optimator! I really look forward to seeing just how strong of a deck I can make with Ib at the helm.

February 28, 2017 4:07 p.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #10

Updated the primer to reflect the significant changes to the deck.

February 28, 2017 4:08 p.m.

rockleemyhero says... #11

I love Ib! Great primer, i used to run ib but found the combos were too hard to pull off with limited tutoring, so i moved to the new grenzo when he got released. I do miss ib a ton tho.

I had a quesiton about your SB. I saw your post on the cedh subreddit. Is the SB all the cards you are moving in for your more competitive build? I cant tell what you are moving in and out, maybe I missed something

March 2, 2017 1:22 p.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #12

rockleemyhero: Thanks! The deck and the primer were both a lot of fun to make. I really want to push him to the limit, whatever that may be.

The Sideboard isn't a traditional Sideboard at the moment. It's more like a list of things that are the closest to be included or switched out with something. The Maybeboard is cards I don't want to forget about, but chances are there is a Sideboard card that is closer to taking the slot.

The Land Destruction cards and the Thornbite Staff are taken out of the main deck just for my regular playgroup. The Mana Rocks are eventual replacements for Lotus Vale/Scorched Ruins/Myriad Landscape. The Stax effects are meaner versions of cards I am currently running, that will probably be FNM includes as well. Strip Mine is going in as soon as I get one. Warbreak Trumpeter or Siege-Gang Commander are possibly replacements for Chancellor of the Forge, as I don't want to get too light on the token generation.

Thanks for showing interest, and if you have any other questions about includes just ask!

March 2, 2017 2:01 p.m.

Liquidbeaver says... #13

Out:

Goblin Wizard - Slow, and Moggcatcher/Goblin Recruiter are much more important with so few non-token goblins. Cavern makes up for his cast protection.

Mycosynth Lattice - I really wanted to work this card in, especially to spread Darksteel Forge to my whole board, but it just costs way too much for what it does, and it hurts the effect that Blood Moon has on my opponent's non-basics.

Zuran Orb - Although I don't like losing my only real lifegain, it didn't do enough to warrant keeping the spot.

In:

Liquimetal Coating - Replacing Mycosynth for now. Interacts well with Slobad, Daretti, Welder, and Forge. We'll see if it ends up being worth it.

Bonfire of the Damned - I need a few more mana sinks, and big sweepers, so this will be included until I find something strictly better. Works very well with Repercussion.

Gravity Sphere - This is a temporary include until I find something else to fit the slot. My regular playgroup is really flyer heavy, but there has to be better ways to deal with them than just taking their flying away.

Still looking for a few more instants, as well as working more mana rocks in to better cover me when I have sac'd some lands.

March 3, 2017 12:18 p.m.