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+1/+1 shenanigans and big combos.

I don't have every potential way to win or do big combos listed. I listed some that have occurred or are intended to occur. There is a lot of synergy/combo potential when +1/+1s are being moved and/or doubled, tokens are being doubled, and if we have a free sacrifice outlet. The deck is far from done and I'm constantly trying to improve it any input on that is appreciated.

The only card I don't own an actual copy of is Survival of the Fittest which mine is the gold border version and no one in my groups cares about it being that way.

Essentially if something can double tokens, double +1/+1 counters, or have counters placed on them for something entering/leaving the battlefield, we can do something with it. So it's important to know the pieces, there are too many potential things that can be listed together. So we have:

1. Ghave, Guru of Spores. He's the way we enable most of this stuff, especially with the Altars. Even he is not completely necessary though. We also have things like Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Heliod, Sun-Crowned.

2. Sacrifice outlets Ashnod's Altar, Phyrexian Altar, Carrion Feeder, and Viscera Seer. Ashnod's Altar is the best Altar we can have because it has 2 mana. Phyrexian Altar is great too but it can't combo off as easily as Ashnod's can. If a great set up already exists to create infinite tokens/mana then Phyrexian is better. But there are cases where Ashnod's will go infinite easily and Phyrexian will not.

3. Parallel Lives and/or Corpsejack Menace, Primal Vigor, Doubling Season, and Illusionist's Bracers. These will double what we're doing and depending on other pieces, it can go infinite or just provide a lot of value. Illusionist's Bracers is a personal Doubling Season for Ghave since he'll get to do his abilities twice.

4. The other cards that can help you go infinite: Death's Presence, Champion of Lambholt, Geralf's Messenger, Good-Fortune Unicorn, Unruly Mob, Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest, Renata, Called to the Hunt, Twilight Drover, and Woodfall Primus.

5. Finishers: Zulaport Cutthroat, Triskelion, and Walking Ballista. Lifeblood Hydra can help us draw what we need from the deck if we generate infinite mana. If we generate infinite mana and tokens we can use Skullclamp as well.

These are things that can be used within the looping combos.

1. The easiest combo in this is Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar + Geralf's Messenger. You sacrifice Geralf's Messenger to Ashnod's Altar, get 2 mana, it comes back with a +1/+1 and then you spend one of your two mana on Ghave's ability to remove the +1/+1 on Geralf's. Infinite colorless mana, infinite tokens, and infinite life loss. Use Phyrexian Altar and we get infinite life loss and tokens but no extra mana.

2. Woodfall Primus with any of the combo pieces as long as we can sacrifice the Primus for mana and a token to put the +1/+1 on the Primus to negate Persist. With this combo you can clear the board of any noncreature permanent that doesn't have hexproof, indestructible, or protection from green. We don't necessarily need to be generating mana with this because we'll be the only ones left with a good amount of land. Easy way to do this is with Renata, Called to the Hunt OR Good-Fortune Unicorn with either Viscera Seer OR Phyrexian Altar OR Ashnod's Altar. Don't even need Ghave.

3. Unruly Mob OR Champion of Lambholt OR Twilight Drover + Ghave, Guru of Spores + Ashnod's Altar OR Phyrexian Altar + Any doubler (like Doubling Season) or Death's Presence out can do a lot of work. We pull a counter off Ghave and make a saproling and sacrifice it for 2 mana. Either way the entering or leaving part would trigger Unruly Mob or Champion of Lambholt and give them a +1/+1. We spend 1 of the 2 mana on Ghave's ability taking away the +1/+1 from either of those creatures. This creates infinite colorless mana with Ashnod's. If we have a combo piece like a token or counter doubler, we get an infinitely large creature as well, infinite mana, and infinite saprolings.

4. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista + Ashnod's Altar OR Phyrexian Altar OR Viscera Seer OR Corpsejack Menace OR Doubling Season OR Primal Vigor. This is easier with the classic Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triseklion. For the first one though, Mikaeus gives the Ballista undying. You pull all the counters off to deal damage, now he's a 1/1 because of Mikaeus which is an issue so we use an altar or the Seer to sacrifice it. Alternatively using a +1/+1 doubler we can making the Ballista hit itself even if it has 1 counter, trigger undying, comes back with 2 counters, 1 for damage to what you need and 1 for the Ballista itself and undying goes off again.

5. Heliod, Sun-Crowned + Walking Ballista OR Triskelion

6. There are so many variations and specific instances where this can work to go infinite that listing and explaining them all would become a book. In #3 you can use Good-Fortune Unicorn, Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest, or Renata, Called to the Hunt in similar ways because each saproling would get a +1/+1 counter which we can remove to create another one. Check in the other panel above to see all the pieces that can work.

Here is the current acquire list for this deck: Acquire List for Ghave EDH

Any help or suggestions is appreciated.


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Date added 1 year
Last updated 2 weeks
Exclude colors UR

This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Rarity (main - side)

6 - 0 Mythic Rares

37 - 0 Rares

20 - 0 Uncommons

24 - 0 Commons

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 2.88
Tokens 1/1 Spirit, 1/1 Saproling, 1/1 Elf, Treasure, 1/1 Elf Warrior
Folders EDH/Commander
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