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It's a full Eldritch Moon .... but not for Sisay —July 7, 2016

It has been a while since I changed something in this deck.

It seems that Eldritch Moon doesn't bring anything competitive for this Sisay deck.

The new 'meld' ability with Gisela & Bruna is too slow to deserve a spot in this deck.

One happy thing is that I finally found myself a copy of the original Wasteland

... and I remain on the lookout for an affordable Savannah.

If you have any questions about my build, feel free to ask them here. I archived the discussion, since it became long...

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acbooster says... #1

Aura Shards I believe would be a great addition to the deck, especially with any token generators. However, I don't know what would be best to take out for it or if it'd be better as a sideboard card

April 16, 2016 1:26 p.m.

crydra says... #2

I run a Sisay deck aswell for 1v1 Duel Commander so the format of my deck is quite different. I love the idea of Sigarda, Host of Herons from the new set. I'm gonna find a spot for her im my deck. Can I also suggest Cryptolith Rite. Its a great enchanment that can be tutored out with your Enlightened Tutor and gives you that extra boost for your bigger creatures without worring about about mana colors.

April 17, 2016 10:05 a.m.

crydra says... #3

Sorry, wrong Sigarda. I meant the Sigarda, Heron's Grace.

April 17, 2016 10:15 a.m.

Dragonman39 says... #4

I previously voted this one, but I enjoy the newer additions. Especially Sigarda, Heron's Grace. I haven't found a place in standard for her, but EDH is a good fit.

April 20, 2016 6:13 a.m.

Jantun says... #5

I love Sisay as a commander, I've built one myself... not as competitive as this, but there's a legend I recently added that has proven pretty helpful in recent games.

Yomiji, Who Bars the Way.

I've also found Yeva, Nature's Herald to be better than I anticipated for those end-step Sisay searches to flash in a legend. Albeit, it only provides flash for greenie/part greenie legends so it might not fit.

Here's mine if interested.The Stuff That Legends Are Made Of

Nice deck! +1!

April 25, 2016 8:06 a.m.

Pyromancer999 says... #6

I run a similar build of this deck and karametra is really the best ramp legend I always get her first

April 25, 2016 8:11 a.m.

strife65 says... #7

FYI, there was a ruling that "legend" is not a creature type, and can not be named for Cavern of Souls, so turns out to be a pretty lame fixer for a Sisay deck anyway sadly!

May 4, 2016 10:40 p.m.

enpc says... #8

strife65: Typically you'd want to name something like 'Human' to get Captain Sisay to stick. From there yo ucan get Dragonlord Dromoka and you're good to go. But yeah, the whole creature type - Legend hasn't been a thing for a long time. While yes it would be nice mana fixing for Cavern of Souls, that's not why you're playing the card. It severely shuts down control decks.

May 5, 2016 12:04 a.m.

strife65 says... #9

enpc True, it does work for that, my thought process was more along the lines of "it will only ever work for a small subsection of the deck so why bother?" The control hate is definitely a legit reason though, and it does still provide at least Sisay specific fixing if you need that early game.

May 5, 2016 11:36 a.m.

bradanuva says... #10

This is beautiful.

May 5, 2016 4:49 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #11

Honestly, there's not much I can say here that hasn't been said :) This is an extremely competitive and well-tuned deck, and Sisay is a tutor for the best cards in the game. I think I've already given this a +1 (if not, I've now rectified this mistake).

In terms of small tweaks, I might consider dropping something (perhaps Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger) for either Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (playing green stasis is backbreaking, and the mana doubling is just a bonus when you can tutor for some huge legend) or Kozilek, the Great Distortion (you have a legend at basically every mana cost, and he turns Sisay into "T: Counter target spell.").

I might also consider adding Wheel of Sun and Moon into the sideboard. It's good when cast on yourself (recycles dead legends so Sisay can find them again), and an amazing piece of tech against any graveyard-based deck (like any of mine). I got screwed over by it recently and discovered how nasty it can be.

May 20, 2016 3:30 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #12

Is there a reason you don't run Life from the Loam? I think you are pretty well set up to use it well here. I guess it could be pretty slow though.

May 20, 2016 3:59 p.m.

Boscogn says... #13

Awesome! What about Harrow?

May 21, 2016 6:02 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #14

Have you considered Champion's Helm, Magewright's Stone, or Concordant Crossroads? I've been considering that this deck is relatively dependent upon the draw power afforded by your commander to find answers and protection.

You're playing a lot of hexproof already, but C'sH is one more just in case. MW'sS gives you an extra copy of Thousand-Year Elixir, giving you double tutors each turn. And finally, CC lets you activate your commander immediately to find protection (especially Sigarda!v2).

You might also find a place for the three in-color Wishes, since you're building a sideboard already. They let you acquire non-legendary "answer" cards pretty easily.

I'm running out of suggestions to post on your deck, haha.

May 27, 2016 9:20 p.m.

KailDaemon says... #15

Love it

June 4, 2016 11:20 a.m.

PartyJ says... #16

Hi acbooster, thanks for your suggestion of adding Aura Shards. I once had it in my mainboard. But I hardly used it. But now that my meta could have some serious enchamtments powers residing in the decks I might add it to my sideboard for future matchups.

Added your suggestion

June 6, 2016 6:40 p.m.

PartyJ says... #17

Hi crydra, how is your deck running lately? Had some good matchups and interesting card interactions lately which surprised you?

I recently had a Scapeshift in my opening hand. As you might expect I tutored for Titania, Protector of Argoth the moment I got the chance. The look on my opponents face was priceless... inserts evil grinn

Your suggestion is understandable, but the sole reason I put this much ramp in the deck is to bring Sisay out as much games as possible before turn 4. Cryptolith Rite will do this only if I hit a 1 mana guy that isnt here for the mana, like Mother of Runes. Lategame I do not need the ramp and I do want my creatues to tap to attack or do their 'funny' trick they taught from Richard Garfield xD

June 6, 2016 6:53 p.m.

PartyJ says... #18

Thank you for your vote and checking the captain here Dragonman39

Keep coming back for more to follow :-)

June 6, 2016 6:54 p.m.

PartyJ says... #19

Hi Jantun, nice to hear you adore the captain as well :-)

Your suggestion of using Yomiji, Who Bars the Way is one that is more at home in a less aggressive build for Sisay. I choose to play her aggresively and ferocious. Where Yomiji is more at home in a control/toolbox based build. I want to go for the throat asap and do not wish to let it drag that long that I need such an effect. The high cmc cards in this deck should be wincons on their own for me to tutor them.

Yeva, Nature's Herald I gave it a shot, but it wasn't well suited in my current build. I tried and felt other options proved more vital. It's only 100 cards. Gheez, even with 100 you still keep crunching on what to replace... and the maybeboard still has some nice options left :)

June 6, 2016 7:04 p.m.

PartyJ says... #20

Hi Pyromancer999,

Karametra, God of Harvests is indeed a very interesting ramp card. But not for the early game. And this is where I wish to accelerate as fast as I can. By the time I could cast Karametra I want to pick another options for this cmc.

I always intend to go full aggro with her; this ship will outrun the 'Black Pearl' for sure

June 6, 2016 7:09 p.m.

PartyJ says... #21

enpc & strife65 : what to add to all this :) There are several humans in the deck to benefit from with Cavern of Souls, but if Sisay was a Buccaneer, then I would shout 'BUCCANEER' when the cave enters the battlefield xD

For now this cave is in hibernation until control crawls out of his cave in my meta...'

June 6, 2016 7:21 p.m.

PartyJ says... #22

Spread the love bradanuva

We could never have enough.... Her leadership forged the Weatherlight's finest crew.

June 6, 2016 7:23 p.m.

enpc says... #23

On the whole the logic seems good. I have to say though, personally I'm not much of a fan of Aura Shards. Yes, I know it's good. But in my experience atal east, I find it brings far too much hate. And most of the time you only really want to blow up one or two things anyway.

June 6, 2016 7:30 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #24

Honestly, I feel that your question re:Vorinclex is more complex than just a yes-no answer: it reflects a fundamental question about how you want your deck to function.

The issue of it drawing too much attention to you is legitimate, but honestly I think you're already in that position if you have your commander out and enough mana to hardcast him. Everyone assumes you're probably playing the hard-hitting legends (Eldrazi and Praetors), so there's an implicit threat whether or not you cast him. As long as you choose a good time to cast him (ie, whenever your opponents are mostly tapped out), he'll also protect himself pretty well - so I wouldn't overly worry about being the archenemy of the table.

That being said, I myself would not play Vorinclex, regardless of the strategic advantages. This may just be because of my personal philosophy in EDH, but I dislike casting him for the same reason I dislike Stasis: he slows down the game and prevents your opponents from doing anything without actually winning the game himself (at least, not for at least several miserable turn cycles). He's the kind of card that gives everyone a bad taste in their mouth if the goal was to sit down and have a fun game of magic.

Personally, I'd do what most competitive decks do and leave him in the sideboard. You can switch him in if a playgroup starts pulling out competitive decks, but I'd leave him out in general. IMO :)

June 8, 2016 7:40 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #25

Also, have you considered Tamiyo's Journal? I mean, it's slow, but I can't think of any other legendary card that is an unconditional tutor. You could stick in Briarbridge Patrol for some Standard-flavored shenanigans?

Probably a bad idea but hey no harm in voicing it.

June 8, 2016 8:50 p.m.