Wurmlover your deck looks good now imo. I would say the worst you can do to an aggro deck like Krenko is to cast a Cursed Totem and also Torpor Orb but that one wouldn't be a trick with Brago. Foood chain is pretty much stopped with cost increases because the combo doesn't generate infinite mana anymore. It gets even worse with AEther Barrier because that can't be paid with food chain mana. You need to get those pieces out and protect them though. Obviously the combo player will do everything to remove the stuff that keeps him from playing his combo. It's more about keeping these hindering cards in play than actually doing alot yourself then.

well taxers like Sphere of Resistance don't do anything against food chain since prossh's trigger says however much mana you paid to cast it. aether barrier is good though, thanks.

Wurmlover it holds off General Tazri though, which wants to use the food chain with one of two creatures that can be cast from exile. Cost increases can hurt Prossh as well, because the commander needs to be cast, which is already quite expensive for 6 mana. Raising the cost for starting the combo (and you have to mind that food chain has to be found and cast as well, which also costs mana for tutors and everything) can just buy as much time as needed. My plan here is to remove the lands then and go into beatdown mode or find combo pieces. You can go on with your Brago value generation in that situation.

As a stax fanboy, I bequeathed this deck an upvote.

I normally do or stax, but I have the cards to try . If I do, I'll likely borrow from some of your designs.

Thanks a lot Lord_Khaine! I'll have a look at your decks if you have some stax lists online here.

I haven't build an esper version in real life yet, only this one, Atraxa and Silas Renn/Bruse Tarl. Unfortunately I can't build all simultaneously because I only have one copy of Workshop and Tabernacle and Timetwister and some other expensive cards. My favorite pick for esper would be either Oloro or Sen Triplets, probably rather Oloro because you can kill very fast with Aetherflux Reservoir...let me know if you have tried something

Winterblast, I'll make sure to upload one of my stax lists later today - most of my collection isn't on tappedout.

Upvoted. Time to go and have a Frantic Search for my last remaining The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale :/

Thank you Rabid_Wombat!

You better find that tabernacle, whatever your Long-Term Plans are, that's not a card you'd like to lose...but do you have an idea how to find the tabernacle while playing? Anything that doesn't involve a tapped land like Tolaria West...

After a 20 minute Treasure Hunt frenzy the Tabernacle was located in an old shoebox - luckily it's been in an Ultra Pro screw down top loader since "back in the day" phew

Tutors like Crop Rotation, Reap and Sow and Expedition Map are all good for finding it whilst playing ;)

Well, unfortunately I can only play one of these here because I don't have green available. I don't think expedition map is really worth a slot just for finding tabernacle and maybe a strip mine...

What do you think about playing Long-Term Plans instead of Mystical Tutor here?

Ack, sorry - I'm all about the Green mana with edh!

Long-Term Plans looks like a good idea but being able to Mystical Tutor up a Top, Mox or an Expedition Map seems to be sweeter deal...and someone will probably combo out and win the game the turn before you draw whatever you planned for ;)

The mystical searches for instants/sorceries, I guess you mean Enlightened Tutor which is indeed important. The whole deck tries to prevent combos from going off so it's just a matter of how much I want to search for stuff that is not an artifact or enchantment, basically planeswalkers, creatures and lands at the cost of putting them 3rd from the top (which isn't too bad with divining top, jace and other draw engines)

7k deck, that's sad.

JoaoWockeez you could build a budget version without the kaladesh inventions

Don't know much about stax, but I know a mean deck when I see it. +1, very well done!

Hey there,

I play meren stax and currently am trying to build a different color scheme for all the stax artifacts and such, was going to build oloro or derevi with ga4 in the deck for the extra colors, but ga4 is just SO good i was sold on him as a meren Alternative

I really like this list, a lot of the cards I already own and your primer description ia very informative and assists me with building my own ga4 version minus tabernacle and some other budgetless cards

+1 for the informative primer and disgustingly well brewed decklist, and thanks for the ideas and WU card explanations sir! (Or madam)

Thanks goblinguiderevealpls! Good that you can use my descriptions and reasoning for the included cards. I don't know if a budget version would work in the same way though, because several decisions are based on having exactly those cards in the deck.

Without tabernacle and other more expensive cards the strategy has to be changed...you wouldn't have a chance of getting ahead of creature AND artifact based ramp without some of the expensive cards. You also wouldn't play as many artifacts and the metalworker combo if you don't have a mishra's workshop available...without moat you would have to play wrath and other mass removal and therefore would not play as many important creatures that you want to keep under all circumstances. Different budget certainly requires a different build, keep that in mind.

Good to know.

One day ill win the lottery so i can go buy Timetwister for my nekusar edh, but hey if you can afford to run them, DO IT. I can see why $t1ks is significantly lower in power :( oh well, nice deck!

Have you found Telepathy to be worth the spot? and out of curiosity why no Whir of Invention? I have found it to be one of the best artifact tutors for stacks strategies.

Sgtpopnfreash I haven't seen it often after putting it in the deck yet but it helps a lot against more opponents. It's really good to know when exactly the best time for a mass bounce or land wipe is and when a counterspell is best used.

The triple blue for whir of invention is just too much imo. I wasn't able to cast it reliably when I first tested it. Maybe I try it again if I ever feel like there's a lack of artifact tutors. More often I was looking for stuff that no other blue or white tutor could find, that's why I have Long-Term Plans. Another idea was Expedition Map but no additional artifact tutor

wow

Thank you for opening my eyes to the Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth combo.

Lol there was a comment about how to fend off Krenko. This is a competitive deck, it shruggs at casual decks like Krenko, trash boss.

Nice deck! Looks very well built. I particularly like the mechanized production win condition, very creative!

Florg thanks but that card has been removed because it was too inconsistent.