Salty Midrange

Modern* Twanicus

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Fatal Push added —Jan. 14, 2017

elonth says... #1

....Sultai the name you are looking for is Sultai. Grixis is the Black Shard. Sultai is the Black Wedge.

October 5, 2016 2:49 p.m.

Twanicus says... #2

=) elonth, I am aware of its official name. However, the color combo doesn't have a set list within modern (part of the reason I was drawn to it) and Green Grixis gives those familiar with the meta a better one-glance idea of what this deck does, as opposed to Blue Jund which runs Lily's instead of a permission suite. Interesting thought though, if it were more creature heavy and ran CoCo, would it be Black Bant?

October 6, 2016 2:59 p.m.

tysrob53 says... #3

the deck looks good but i noticed you have a lot of things that hurt you but no life gain to counter it.

October 18, 2016 7:02 p.m.

Twanicus says... #4

tysrob53, in a deck without counterspells, it would be much more of an issue than it has been. If I smell Burn or Affinity, my fetch sequences and spell orders change accordingly. My meta has a pretty healthy mix, but if it leaned towards aggro, I would consider courser or even baloth in the main. Thing is, green is my splash, so scooze can't be activated the turn it comes into play more often than not, and courser can be painful to cast. Any ideas I'm missing?

October 20, 2016 2:38 p.m.

tysrob53 says... #5

oh ok fair enough, and yeah at my meta most of the decks are aggro or faster style of midrange

October 20, 2016 10:07 p.m.

tysrob53 says... #6

also if you can support it i would suggest running Counterspell instead of Mana Leak

October 20, 2016 10:09 p.m.

Twanicus says... #7

Believe me, tysrob53, if counterspell was modern legal, i would have the full playset included. Probably foiled out. Unfortunately, deprive is as close as it gets in our format.

October 21, 2016 10:05 a.m.

Apakakuta says... #8

Call it sultai because that is what it is. Otherwise looks like an interesting list I came to a simular conclusion for my personal build that green was just a splash color.

November 6, 2016 9:04 p.m.

elonth says... #9

@Twanicus you don't seem to understand how Deck naming works. When you call a deck "Black bant" it is not because it uses creatures. Its because the deck is primairly Bant (W/U/G) and splashes black for some important cards. Your deck is SULTAI. It is not "Grixis green" because it runs a similar strat to Grixis Control in modern but uses green instead of red. it is SULTAI control. The key defining words are things such as "Delver, Control, Storm, Waste not" key cards or concepts strategies that define the plan or idea of a deck. not color.

November 8, 2016 8:05 a.m.

Twanicus says... #10

elonth

Wow, of all the things I was trying to accomplish with this project, a discussion of naming protocols never even occurred to me. Look, I get where y'all are coming from, but slapping the name Sultai on a deck and running it into the field is a great way to be summarily ignored. Trust me on this, you need a hook. I have no reason to check out some generic version of Jund or Jeskai just taking up space on the modern board, but if there is a clever enough name attatched, I just might. It brought you in here. It put words on my wall. It even earned me an upvote or two. It also immediately distinguishes my build from jund-like decks, whether or not my naming criteria is universally accepted.

TL;DR: I appreciate the input, and I mean that genuinely, but I'll be keeping my name. Mostly cuz I like it, but also being told I should change something evokes a very defiant streak in me.

One last addendum: I would consider this more midrange than control, but that's a whole new discussion.

November 8, 2016 2:41 p.m.

Apakakuta says... #11

I do agree that this is a midrange list my bug list is control Sultai's Hope. Would you have a better name suggestion for mine?

November 8, 2016 2:50 p.m.

Twanicus says... #12

@ Apakakuta, lol, I don't know how much of a naming savant I am, but I will use what marketing prowess I may have and see what I can do. Give me a day or so, busy schedule and all. Also: your name is incredibly fun to say.

November 10, 2016 2:52 p.m.

Apakakuta says... #13

My handle I came up with years ago thank you for that comment.

Also sure, not any extreme rush. I understand busy schedules.

November 10, 2016 3:13 p.m.

KaiserMTG says... #14

I'm a fan of Deprive myself, but I think you need to either run lands that have synergy with it like Bojuka Bog, or run Bloodghast to get the most out of it.

December 27, 2016 11:24 p.m.

Twanicus says... #15

I like the idea of synergy, but I find my mana base to be too lean to support additional tap lands, and I can't bring myself to cut any man lands. Same goes for ghast, I love the idea, but I'd be cutting too much power in Bob, Snap, or even Kalitas. The synergy just isnt worth the card advantage/selection. If anything, Kalitas may end up becoming 2-3 grim flayers just to test out, when I finally get around to picking them up. Thank you for the suggestions though.

December 28, 2016 3:32 p.m.

Apakakuta says... #16

I've been looking more and more towards Grim Flayer lately myself.

December 28, 2016 3:48 p.m.

For your problem with the manlands, I think the new Fatal Push will solve your problem.

January 13, 2017 3:26 p.m.

Twanicus says... #18

yes, I am very much looking forward to them becoming legal. Seems like a good time to update build =)

January 13, 2017 9:49 p.m.