Kamahl, Fist of Krosa EDH

Commander / EDH Cariddis

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4 CARDS CHANGED —Aug. 30, 2015

I recently decided, after some tests and an accurate analysis, to make the folllowings changes:

-Remove one Snow-Covered Forest for Mana Crypt; the reasons seems pretty obvious.

-Remove Garruk, Caller of Beasts for Abundance: The former was expensive and although it provided card advantage it was not much synergic with the rest of the deck. furthermore, I valuate much more the card filtering ability of abundance rather than the chance to draw 5 creatures for 6 mana.

-Remove Scryb Ranger for Scavenging Ooze: Scryb was the only possible 2 drop to remove in order to make room for Ooze.

-Remove Regrowth for Crucible of Worlds; Crucible is so much powerful, and regrowth had a similar role in the deck. So the substitution seemed right to me.

PepsiAddicted says... #1

Very nice +1

And i would give u a 2nd +1 for the detailed description if i could!

Caged Sun maybe

July 13, 2015 3:33 a.m. Edited.

Cariddis says... #2

PepsiAddicted thank you for the +1 ;)

I used to play Caged Sun, but I find it pretty useless in a deck that has far better ways to ramp. It costs 6 and for that mana you'd rather play much better stuff. That card, though, is mandatory in every combination of colors that doesn't benefit from the best ramping spells.

If you use Omnath, Locus of Mana as your general, then that card will become extremely valuable even in mono G. But that's the only case IMO.

July 13, 2015 6:26 a.m.

PepsiAddicted says... #3

Yeah thought so, thats why i added "maybe" ;) i didnt want to leave without atleast trying to contribute

<3

July 13, 2015 6:44 a.m.

Cariddis says... #4

PepsiAddicted I really appreciated that you tried to positively give your opinion to my deck! Thank you so much :)

July 13, 2015 6:52 a.m.

If you haven't considered them, Sunstone and Jolrael, Empress of Beasts are a lot of fun and very useful to a deck like this.

July 16, 2015 12:39 p.m.

Cariddis says... #6

Karns_Pyromancer I think that Sunstone won't be that useful since there would be hardly any moment where this deck will have less creatures than the others. We will be the one to put pressure by attacking, not them ;) Jolrael, Empress of Beasts seems a very interesting card! Sure, you have to discard 2 cards and thus it make it possible to use her ability only in limited (and pretty desperate) occasions, but it's a very fun card to add. Which card do you suggest I replace it with?

July 16, 2015 6:50 p.m.

Harsh as it sounds, I'm not a fan of Garruk, Caller of Beasts, Harmonize, or Elvish Mystic/Llanowar Elves. I would definitely swap the last two for Elemental Bond and Ambush Commander. Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury might be worth considering as well (I'm really not trying to suggest a lot of Elves, but if I were, I'd suggest Elvish Archdruid).

I am surprised that you run Nykthos, but not Karametra's Acolyte.

July 17, 2015 11:10 a.m.

Cariddis says... #8

Karns_Pyromancer thanks for your suggestions :) I would like to know why you don't like those cards you mentioned: is it a personal reason or and objective one?I'm gonna explain you what I think of your suggested cards, one by one and in detail.

First of all, I must say I truly like Elemental Bond; the problem with it is that is an awful topdeck, and that it doesn't allow you not to draw the card (thus risking to mill yourself or go to discard pretty often).

Ambush Commander is a pretty terrible card! we're talking about a format where Wrath of God effect are pretty common; turning all of your lands into creatures does not seem the best plan to me ;) the aim with Kamahl, Fist of Krosa is the other way around: turning your opponents' lands into creatures as soon as somebody does a a board swipe.

Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury seems a decent card, what card do you suggest I swap her with? and why?

I'm sorry but I don't see the reason why I should use Elvish Archdruid: sure, he gives you a lot of mana sometimes, but it is CMC 3 and as soon as someone will board swipe once, it will become a very bad topdeck. I tried it and removed it for those reasons. I would say that he is a very strong card in a tribal Elves commander, though.

I run Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx because it is a land. Karametra's Acolyte is a 4 cmc mana dork; she's waaaaaaaaaaaaay to slow and useless in almost all mono G EDH. The only deck where I use her is an Omnath, Locus of Mana EDH, since in that case I'll have plenty of mana to cast her before turn 4 (and I can store her mana for better days).

July 17, 2015 6:32 p.m.

Didn't mean to suggest Archdruid if I did.

Harmonize, being Draw 3 for 2CC, would be average in Blue. It's only good in Green because there's not many other non-conditional green draw. However, most of Green's draw is based around it's creatures. Especially with Kamahl, you can abuse this for cards like Shamanic Revelation and Collective Unconscious.

As for the Garruk, I mistook it for Garruk, Primal Hunter.

MystQuick and co. I find to be terrible outside my opening hand. If they work for you, GREAT! I've just never had them work for me.

July 17, 2015 7:11 p.m.

Cicjose says... #10

July 23, 2015 4:52 a.m.

Cariddis says... #11

Cicjose why should I play Dwynen? This is not a tribal elf deck, and I find her effect pretty useless, don't you say? Unless you thought of strange synergies that I'm not aware of; in that case, I'm more than willing to hear them :)

July 23, 2015 4:10 p.m.

Cicjose says... #12

Natural Order doesnt have any synergy either..... the effect only works with one card in your entire deck at least Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen has an effect that helps most of your creatures

July 24, 2015 1:23 a.m.

Cariddis says... #13

Cicjose Are you joking, right? Natural Order allows you to put into play any green creature of your deck. The most obvious choices are Terastodon, Woodfall Primus and Craterhoof Behemoth but you can also tutor other things. If you are refferring to the creature to be sacrificed, it is true that the best choice is definitely Dryad Arbor, but any mana dork can be sacrificed this way, as well as cards that once are in play will be no longer of use (i.e: Fierce Empath or Yavimaya Elder)

July 29, 2015 11:48 a.m.

Cicjose says... #14

Natural Order says Green Summon Creature.... you have ONE in your entire deck Quirion Ranger read the card carefully

July 29, 2015 11:55 a.m.

Cariddis says... #15

LOL Cicjose ever heard about rewording? Natural Order :D :D :D

July 29, 2015 1:15 p.m.

Slang111 says... #16

I would add some stuff like Staff of Nin so with kamahl's ability to turn lands into 1/1 this could win the game for you by destroying your opponent's lands

August 6, 2015 8:36 a.m.

So, I was looking through some old cards, saw Earth Surge, and thought of you.

August 6, 2015 10:10 a.m.

Apocolisp says... #18

Fantastic deck, +1 from me. I have been considering making a Kamahl EDH so thanks for the inspiration!

August 23, 2015 10:51 a.m.

Cariddis says... #19

Apocolisp you're very welcome :) I'm still testing it a lot. If I'll ever make some changes I'll edit the deck so that you will know which cards had been added and which one was removed. :)

Karns_Pyromancer the problem with Earth Surge is that EACH land becomes a creature; that means that you won't be able to kill opponents' lands if anyone casts a Black Sun's Zenith for 1 or other stuff like Midnight Banshee or Night of Souls' Betrayal.

Slang111 I used to run Staff of Nin but it costs a lot of mana for a meagre effect. For six mana other players will have played some bombs. It is better to use Kamahl's effect as an incentive for preventing your opponents from casting Wrath of God effects ;)

August 24, 2015 7:30 p.m.